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Coal Falls Hard As Renewables Continue to Surge, Oil & Gas Giant BP Reports
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/15...eanTechnica%29
Bloomberg New Energy Finance’s outlook shows renewables will be cheaper almost everywhere in just a few years.
(see rest of it atSolar power, once so costly it only made economic sense in spaceships, is becoming cheap enough that it will push coal and even natural-gas plants out of business faster than previously forecast.
That’s the conclusion of a Bloomberg New Energy Finance outlook for how fuel and electricity markets will evolve by 2040. The research group estimated solar already rivals the cost of new coal power plants in Germany and the U.S. and by 2021 will do so in quick-growing markets such as China and India.
The scenario suggests green energy is taking root more quickly than most experts anticipate. It would mean that global carbon dioxide pollution from fossil fuels may decline after 2026, a contrast with the International Energy Agency’s central forecast, which sees emissions rising steadily for decades to come.
“Costs of new energy technologies are falling in a way that it’s more a matter of when than if,” said Seb Henbest, a researcher at BNEF in London and lead author of the report.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...than-you-think
Coal Falls Hard As Renewables Continue to Surge, Oil & Gas Giant BP Reports
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/15...eanTechnica%29
Wind, solar produce 10 percent of US electricity for first time
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...for-first-time
... while Trash + Repugs push BigCarbon and killing PV and wind promotion.
BigOil subsidies, tax breaks annually still outpace assistance to wind and solar power. That's going to get worse.
Ain't nothing wrong with having every source at our disposal. Suppresses the cost at the switch.
Coal costs far more than it is worth. It is heavily subsidized by the ability to pollute without fully paying for cleaning it up.
aka, "external costs" born by taxpayers eventually.
BigCoal/BigElectric has for decades hired enough Congressional "employees" so that strongly toxic coal ash is not considered toxic, not regulated.
FAKE NEWS
Nope.
The War Pigs / Coal Pigs gonna keep this going for years.
I thought solar was gonna be bigger faster than it has.
distributed solar has been crippled or blocked in most red/slave Repug states, esp all across the sun belt
And investment in "intelligent" and new electrical distribution networks has clearly lagged. This includes trying to move a super-abundance of wind power in some states to populated centers.
Distributed solar could have a real impediment if BigElectric lets wind power hold or reduce prices, meaning distributed solar would have a long payback.
otoh, real estate companies are finding the homes for resale with solar installed receive a serious premium.
Some developers are selling new homes with solar panels installed, rolling the solar cost into the mortgage.
USA could really use a Manhattan project and huge govt/state intervention in renewables, but the oligarchy getting rich with status quo makes policy.
Although USA has plenty of room on land for wind power (unlike Europe that has gone offshore wind primarily), there are finally serious US projects offshore wind.
I know you are a troll, but dude (dudette?) this is still weak.
Lot of people did.
to be fair solar irradiance has been declining for about 20 years or so
I'm all for solar power. Who wants to give up their land to allow the city to build solar array farms so they can shut down the coal burning power plants? Or do you mean individuals putting solar panels on roofs with a large battery bank somewhere in the back of the property?
I have no problem with solar power, none. I just don't think it's ready for prime time.
I wanted to go rooftop solar at my house. Some Tesla owned outfit wanted $50 grand.
I asked him if that was real or dog-dollars?
solarcity is the one Telsa bought
What will/should happen is you will have to make an investment across all things (not just home) for this to pay off. Your home, car, etc...You will pay upfront for it, but over time you will save money and live a cleaner more sustainable life.
Your roof will be solar, not just panels attached to the roof. That will power everything at a fraction of the cost of your normal energy, charge your car, etc..You will have to view the net benefit (I.E. The cost of a normal roof today + energy bill vs a more expensive solar roof + lower cost with a break even in say 5 years)
One advantage of rooftop solar in ish Texas is that the panels shade the roof, esp in older homes without modern insulation.
If one is buying rooftop solar, then that means the rooftop isn't shaded by tress.
Did you see the Tesla Solar Roof Shingle? I think that is where things are going. The actual roof shingles will no longer be comp shingle or slate or concrete or tile. They will actually be solar shingles installed basically like a normal roof (and made to look like whatever you want).
BigSolar
Actually what will have to happen is the term "alternative" will have to be removed. When you have options, you will go with the easier one, most of the time. If people planned for the future we'd be a different society completely.
That's a good point. But there are ways around that which they tried with rebates, etc...I equate it to 4K TV. Just not enough content to go to one even though people know it's better.
We wants to do it too but our house shape isn't right apparently angles are too steep and not facing the right way or something.
I don't think the steepness would be the primary obstacle, but not facing south would be.
Solar suffered the initial hype driven scam fest and everyone and their brother started up a solar company of some sort. They are mostly bankrupt now but they all walked away with investor money. For this reason investors are hesitant to invest in solar if it's not something like First Solar or a large well established company that doesn't really reach for private investment. This is why technologies like quantum dot and such are dragging along. If the feds fund it, suddenly everyone in Texas is a quantum dot manufacturer or wholesaler, who just needs a bit of private funding.
I'm ok with big corporations like Tesla driving it, because although the cost to consumers will be manipulated by price fixing, the technology will be grown much faster than privately funded startup ventures looking for a short term result.
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