In case you needed another reason to hate GS

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Bet 20 years.

The NE outside of NY and maybe VT will turn red before Texas would turn blue. Not to mention the Michigan's, Ohio's, Pennsylvania's, Wisconsin's, and Minnesota's type states all becoming solidly red.

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He ed up thinking he could get Republicans to support something just because they supported before. Obama was naive as .

Republicans didn't support it, New England Dems did. Republicans spent years trying to explain why Romney did it. Which obviously never worked. The writing was on the wall on how unpopular the bill would be before he signed it. But like all elitist liberals, he knows what's better for us and the ends justify lying to our faces.

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I think it would. The internet is still gonna be here.

John McCain and Ms Avon Lady took Texas by 12 points when everybody was sick of Bush's and every republican voter I knew wanted McCain to get hit by a Mack truck. Texas ain't going blue.

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Its over for the repubs if Texas ever turns blue. That's not a joke.

Dems just lost the rust belt to a clown. I would worry about the rust belt before I dream of Texas turning blue.

[dabom]

John McCain and Ms Avon Lady took Texas by 12 points when everybody was sick of Bush's and every republican voter I knew wanted McCain to get hit by a Mack truck. Texas ain't going blue.

How did the major cities fare vs this election cycle?

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Texas has a good size hispanic base. It's continuing to grow. And city people are tired of republican bull .

[baseline bum]

Republicans didn't support it, New England Dems did. Republicans spent years trying to explain why Romney did it. Which obviously never worked. The writing was on the wall on how unpopular the bill would be before he signed it. But like all elitist liberals, he knows what's better for us and the ends justify lying to our faces.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...are-plan-1993/

1993: Health care takes center stage

President Bill Clinton took on an ill-fated effort to reform health care in 1993. As the president’s task force (led by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton) worked behind closed doors to craft solutions to ever-rising health care costs and a growing number of uninsured families, Republicans scrambled to forge an alternative.

Republican Sen. John Chafee of Rhode Island was the point man. The bill he introduced, Health Equity and Access Reform Today, (yes, that spells HEART) had a list of 20 co-sponsors that was a who’s who of Republican leadership. There was Minority Leader Bob Dole, R- Kan., Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and many others. There also were two Democratic co-sponsors.

Among other features, the Chafee bill included:

An individual mandate;

Creation of purchasing pools;

Standardized benefits;

Vouchers for the poor to buy insurance;

A ban on denying coverage based on a pre-existing condition.

"You would find a great deal of similarity to provisions in the Affordable Care Act," Sheila Burke, Dole’s chief of staff in 1993, told PunditFact via email. "The guys were way ahead of the times!! Different crowd, different time, suffice it to say."

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How did the major cities fare vs this election cycle?

Like they always do.

[dabom]

Like they always do.

Try again.

[baseline bum]

Try again.

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If current trends continue... maybe in 25-30 years:

[dabom]

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

Not as historical as this year... in Texas.

[baseline bum]

If current trends continue... maybe in 25-30 years:

Texas blue and Massachusetts red

[UNT Eagles 2016]

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

You can thank all the hobo tyrone s on the streets for that, as well as the other s living off the government in the cities (close to half).

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http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...are-plan-1993/

1993: Health care takes center stage

President Bill Clinton took on an ill-fated effort to reform health care in 1993. As the president’s task force (led by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton) worked behind closed doors to craft solutions to ever-rising health care costs and a growing number of uninsured families, Republicans scrambled to forge an alternative.

Republican Sen. John Chafee of Rhode Island was the point man. The bill he introduced, Health Equity and Access Reform Today, (yes, that spells HEART) had a list of 20 co-sponsors that was a who’s who of Republican leadership. There was Minority Leader Bob Dole, R- Kan., Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and many others. There also were two Democratic co-sponsors.

Among other features, the Chafee bill included:

An individual mandate;

Creation of purchasing pools;

Standardized benefits;

Vouchers for the poor to buy insurance;

A ban on denying coverage based on a pre-existing condition.

"You would find a great deal of similarity to provisions in the Affordable Care Act," Sheila Burke, Dole’s chief of staff in 1993, told PunditFact via email. "The guys were way ahead of the times!! Different crowd, different time, suffice it to say."

Oh you mean a few senators that included democrats proposed a plan with some tenants of Obamacare merely to scramble together an alternative bill so they could say that they had an alternative bill that they knew would never pass cons utes "republicans supported Obamacare." Nice try, but I've read these Dem talking points. The Obamacare wasn't a failure bc republicans universally opposed it. It was a failure because it was a horrible bill regardless of which party proposed it.

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You can thank all the hobo tyrone s on the streets for that, as well as the other s living off the government in the cities (close to half).

So you're saying Massachusetts is going to import all their hobos to Texas?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Texas blue and Massachusetts red

Don't laugh. The trend is: influx of minorities (mainly Hispanics) into the border states and white people who don't like them. Think of the Foxborough Patriots, Tom Brady, Robert Kraft culture, etc. And Trump rallies in MA were madhouses from January through November last year. MA is >85% white. They're in the next set of dominos to fall after the Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania group (though it'll take a few more election cycles from now).

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Oh you mean a few senators that included democrats proposed a plan with some tenants of Obamacare merely to scramble together an alternative bill so they could say that they had an alternative bill that they knew would never pass cons utes "republicans supported Obamacare." Nice try, but I've read these Dem talking points. The Obamacare wasn't a failure bc republicans universally opposed it. It was a failure because it was a horrible bill regardless of which party proposed it.

I mean he used ideas high ranking republicans supported in the past. LOL at your idea the democrats somehow went far left. If you want to see a party actually swing far towards a lunatic fringe, here is a real example of it:

2008:


2017: Hurr durr global warming is a Chinese conspiracy

[UNT Eagles 2016]

So you're saying Massachusetts is going to import all their hobos to Texas?

Keyword, tyrones. Tyrell's, deshawns, jabari's and jamals. Massachusetts isn't rife with those ers.

[cd98]

I mean he used ideas high ranking republicans supported in the past. LOL at your idea the democrats somehow went far left. If you want to see a party actually swing far towards a lunatic fringe, here is a real example of it:

2008:


2017: Hurr durr global warming is a Chinese conspiracy

Hey I don't deny Repubs have gone...I don't know where. I mean, Trump is an overreaction. But your party thought it was more important to talk about who should use which bathroom than jobs. And while there are reasonable compromises to be made on immigration, the left's vision is so extreme as to erase any distinction between Mexico and the US. They favor no limits at the border as Clinton pandered to during the last election. While building a wall is one extreme, pretending like Mexico is an extension of the Texas border is quite another.

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Texas blue and Massachusetts red

Hey, people were laughing too when Trump ran and look what happened. Thanks DEMS for being idiot crooks!

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Hey I don't deny Repubs have gone...I don't know where. I mean, Trump is an overreaction. But your party thought it was more important to talk about who should use which bathroom than jobs. And while there are reasonable compromises to be made on immigration, the left's vision is so extreme as to erase any distinction between Mexico and the US. They favor no limits at the border as Clinton pandered to during the last election. While building a wall is one extreme, pretending like Mexico is an extension of the Texas border is quite another.

Yeah Clinton was definitely a up of unbelievable proportion. Instead of talking about how Trump would kick million off healthcare it was let's talk about Alicia Machado.

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Yeah Clinton was definitely a up of unbelievable proportion. Instead of talking about how Trump would kick million off healthcare it was let's talk about Alicia Machado.

Yes, but those millions are losing insurance anyway. People can't afford the insurance that Obamacare is providing and the coverage sucks. People are opting to "pay the penalty" that Obama kept pushing back every year. But hey, I'm not sticking up for Trumps plan, so you can save your rant. I'm against universal healthcare because it is not an attainable goal without creating huge premiums and crappy coverage and poor medical services. I don't know how we fix insurance. It's a mess and the government taking it over will only make it worse. But alas Obama brought us down this path and once you give out government freebies, they is no turning back. People are all in on covering preexisting illnesses and giving everyone coverage, but they don't get the cost, esp on the middle class, and just how poor their healthcare will be.

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Yes, but those millions are losing insurance anyway. People can't afford the insurance that Obamacare is providing and the coverage sucks. People are opting to "pay the penalty" that Obama kept pushing back every year. But hey, I'm not sticking up for Trumps plan, so you can save your rant. I'm against universal healthcare because it is not an attainable goal without creating huge premiums and crappy coverage and poor medical services. I don't know how we fix insurance. It's a mess and the government taking it over will only make it worse. But alas Obama brought us down this path and once you give out government freebies, they is no turning back. People are all in on covering preexisting illnesses and giving everyone coverage, but they don't get the cost, esp on the middle class, and just how poor their healthcare will be.

I don't buy that. Other countries in the first world have figured it out, and the US is a lot richer than they are. Before the ACA we paid way more than any other 1st world country for our healthcare. It's not like healthcare just got expensive in 2013.

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Texas has a good size hispanic base. It's continuing to grow. And city people are tired of republican bull .

Plenty of hispanics arent democrats...esp if the media stopped pumping 24/7 'republicans hate 'mexicans'' propaganda i bet 50% would already vote repub.

Remember Wendy 'gonna turn texas blue!' Davis? How'd that work out for you