In case you needed another reason to hate GS

[poop]

The entire US will soon go blue, old white s that are yearning for the good old days will soon die off.

You mean the people who created, designed, fought for, and developed the most powerful and prosperous country ever? The people who created western civilization? Yea, it will be so much better when those people are gone

The nation you so look forward to will basically be a clone of modern day brazil. Not exactly a 'better place'. You anti-white promoters are stupid as ...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And I fully understood BB reasoning for voting Hillary. I told him the other day I was not taking him to task for his vote or asking him to justify it.

And although I can see how it was confusing since it was BB I was engaging with I was speaking more globally. I just violently disagree, especially lately since frankly I'm really sick and tired of all of this bs and ashamed about our politics as I have entered into adulthood that it's happening under our watch.

I just no longer can stomach the lesser of two evils argument even though I understand why people vote that way. I've voted that way. I've made the arguments that way.

I just no longer have the stomach to do so and hopefulllly Trump burns the REP party down and DEMS have a rude awakening (since Fuzzy seems to think they are legit shook and not taking the talking about points they spout about how they didn't do anything wrong seriously)

I said that they did nothing to change leadership and pointed out it was an oligarchy and you think that I meant they were shook?

I was pointing out how your wishcasting did not come to pas as voter turnout was and they lost across the board. They don't give a .

I really like you doubling down on a media narrative. Meanwhile exactly who in Dem leadership pointed out how the popular vote meant that "nothing was wrong?"

[baseline bum]

In my defense I don't drink often....and I'm desperately trying to keep myself entertained (I'm in Iowa for s sake )

2017 is a good year to start drinking often tbh

[Leetonidas]

2017 is a good year to start drinking often tbh

Only drinking cus I cant find any weed out here and you can buy liquor in gas stations here

[DPG21920]

I said that they did nothing to change leadership and pointed out it was an oligarchy and you think that I meant they were shook?

I was pointing out how your wishcasting did not come to pas as voter turnout was and they lost across the board. They don't give a .

I really like you doubling down on a media narrative. Meanwhile exactly who in Dem leadership pointed out how the popular vote meant that "nothing was wrong?"

I'm saying I disagree with your assertion that DEMS recognize that Hillary was a mistake. That what they did to Bernie and his supporters was a mistake. I hold no misgivings about them actually changing which in part is why I'm pissed that Trump being horrendous will lead to nothing good.

And while voter turnout was poor, it was not on the scale that I was hoping for (and YES, I understand it will likely never happen).

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You mean the people who created, designed, fought for, and developed the most powerful and prosperous country ever? The people who created western civilization? Yea, it will be so much better when those people are gone

The nation you so look forward to will basically be a clone of modern day brazil. Not exactly a 'better place'. You anti-white promoters are stupid as ...

The country was built to greatness by the people that grew up in the depression and won WW2. They are all but dead now.

The generation currently dying off are the boomers. The baby boomers ran up a ton of debt voting themselves free rides and embracing the concept that greed was good ever since they entered their majority in the mid 70s. Boomers pretty famously rejected their forebearers with slogans like "don't trust anyone over 40" and "turn on, tune in, drop out" and then proceeded in dismantled the regulatory regime the country was built on in the 1980s thru today.

"fought for" for the generation that justified draft dodging and lost Vietnam. Boomers didn't create ; they just milked their legacy for all it was worth.

[cd98]

She moved a tad on student loans and put out rhetoric about banks with nothing substantive behind it. I don't see how Citizen's United is a left/right issue.

At the end of the day though if you took any of that at face value, you are a moron. When you look at her voting record in the senate and her husbands administration to say that she is "far left" is plain ignorant.

She probably didn't strike you as far left because you are far left. She ran on an immigration plan that basically eliminated any distinction between Mexican and American citizens. I get being against the wall, but she was open borders, which is far left. On abortion, she favored no restrictions and supported partial birth abortions, which is far left of mainstream. And then she ran on iden y politics (vote for me bc I'm a woman) and iden y politics is a creation of the far left. Yes, her husband was a moderate dem, but she was not. And she was the one that wanted government run health care back in the 90s, which is also a far left pet project. Im not sure why you don't know her platform. Maybe because you don't live in Arizona, where she was campaigning instead of the rust belt.

[dabom]

Bernie gots.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm saying I disagree with your assertion that DEMS recognize that Hillary was a mistake. That what they did to Bernie and his supporters was a mistake. I hold no misgivings about them actually changing which in part is why I'm pissed that Trump being horrendous will lead to nothing good.

And while voter turnout was poor, it was not on the scale that I was hoping for (and YES, I understand it will likely never happen).

I know that they have criticized the Clinton campaign for their strategy that ignored rural voters and battleground states. This notion that they would ever admit that their candidate was a mistake seems pretty naive to me. They did can Wasserman. I'm not making claims as to what "they think" on that issue either.

Voter turnout regressed sharply last cycle and they lost across the board. If you think that a marginal further decrease in turnout would have changed things, that is pretty deluded. It's not like it's an all or nothing binary switch either. They changed little to nothing in terms of leadership despite a worst case result.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

She probably didn't strike you as far left because you are far left. She ran on an immigration plan that basically eliminated any distinction between Mexican and American citizens. I get being against the wall, but she was open borders, which is far left. On abortion, she favored no restrictions and supported partial birth abortions, which is far left of mainstream. And then she ran on iden y politics (vote for me bc I'm a woman) and iden y politics is a creation of the far left. Yes, her husband was a moderate dem, but she was not. And she was the one that wanted government run health care back in the 90s, which is also a far left pet project. Im not sure why you don't know her platform. Maybe because you don't live in Arizona, where she was campaigning instead of the rust belt.

Yes I get the white christian nationalist top issues are your defining issues but she also is big on deregulation, defense spending and is a war hawk. That is in her voting record.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issue...ration-reform/

Please point to me which part is "open borders."

I never said that she was right wing but she has position on both sides that make her moderate left of center overall.

[GSH]

In my defense I don't drink often....and I'm desperately trying to keep myself entertained (I'm in Iowa for s sake )

Iowa? I hate ing Iowa!


I'ma quit reading this thread while I'm feeling good. Most of the people in this thread now, I honestly think I'd enjoy sitting down and having a drink with. I'm pretty sure I'd like them all better than the candidates on both sides. And it's reached a point where I understand arguments on both sides. I'll argue with you guys later about basketball, but not about this .

Bernie gots.

Not you, though.

[cd98]

Yes I get the white christian nationalist top issues are your defining issues but she also is big on deregulation, defense spending and is a war hawk. That is in her voting record.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issue...ration-reform/

Please point to me which part is "open borders."

I never said that she was right wing but she has position on both sides that make her moderate left of center overall.

Hmmm. Not for open borders?

*Hillary Clinton Said Her Dream Is A Hemispheric Common Market, With Open Trade And Open Markets. *
“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 28]…
*“Secondly, I think we have to have a concerted plan to increase trade already under the current cir stances, you know, that Inter-American Development Bank figure is pretty surprising. There is so much more we can do, there is a lot of low hanging fruit but businesses on both sides have to make it a priority and it’s not for governments to do but governments can either make it easy or make it hard and we have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade and I would like to see this get much more attention and be not just a policy for a year under president X or president Y but a consistent one.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 32]

[cd98]

Yes I get the white christian nationalist top issues are your defining issues but she also is big on deregulation, defense spending and is a war hawk. That is in her voting record.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issue...ration-reform/

Please point to me which part is "open borders."

I never said that she was right wing but she has position on both sides that make her moderate left of center overall.

I didnt vote for Trump, so the white nationalist Christian "insult" that you mentioned doesn't apply. Only in a far left world is it an "insult" to call someone "white" and "Christian". Also, only in a far left mind like yours is a limit of any kind on abortion purely christian. It's actually a universal offense to all world religions. But abortion is not a pet issue of mine. You wanted an example of far left Hillary, and I gave you a few of the many. You see, the country is divided on abortion, but not on partial birth abortion. Most humans, regardless of religious affiliation, are against partial birth abortions. Most Americans want at least some regulation on abortion. But not far left people like you or Hillary. See for yourself. Are you for ANY limits on abortion? If so, what are they? Let's see how mainstream your views are or if they conform with Hillary's view: no limit on abortions.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...other-defends/

[AFMadison]

Silence.... run away now

[baseline bum]

Silence.... run away now

Like you keep running from Trump's bait & switch on healthcare?

[AFMadison]

Like you keep running from Trump's bait & switch on healthcare?

Back to the beginning huh? I've addressed it, but you failed to do the same. Keep up, kiddo.

[baseline bum]

Back to the beginning huh? I've addressed it, but you failed to do the same. Keep up, kiddo.

Changing the subject isn't addressing it, head. He promised one thing and did a complete 180 with the garbage he pushed through the house.

[AFMadison]

Changing the subject isn't addressing it, head. He promised one thing and did a complete 180 with the garbage he pushed through the house.

You need to go back and read, kiddo. I do know that you're not going to address anything I said, because you can't. So I'm gonna leave this here with you... L

[baseline bum]

You need to go back and read, kiddo. I do know that you're not going to address anything I said, because you can't. So I'm gonna leave this here with you... L

LOL you can't answer for our Dear Leader pulling a complete bait and switch on healthcare. You just pretend it didn't ever happen like a good Trump .

[Walter Donovan]

I think both of you need to take a step back and relax_

[AFMadison]

LOL you can't answer for our Dear Leader pulling a complete bait and switch on healthcare. You just pretend it didn't ever happen like a good Trump .

Deflection at its finest.

[baseline bum]

Deflection at its finest.

LOL you can't answer for our Dear Leader pulling a complete bait and switch on healthcare. You just pretend it didn't ever happen like a good Trump .

[AFMadison]

Deflection at its finest.

[baseline bum]

LOL can't acknowledge our Dear Leader pulling a complete 180 on healthcare.

[RD2191]

You mean the people who created, designed, fought for, and developed the most powerful and prosperous country ever? The people who created western civilization? Yea, it will be so much better when those people are gone

The nation you so look forward to will basically be a clone of modern day brazil. Not exactly a 'better place'. You anti-white promoters are stupid as ...

You mean thieves, rapist and murderers who stole an entire country? Ok.