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    That's your opine. I obviously do not share it.
    We all know your opinion is by just looking to see whatever Trump said about a topic

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    We all know your opinion is by just looking to see whatever Trump said about a topic
    & looking to when you were eliminated from the playoffs.

    tee, hee.

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    You then go on to cite this as evidence of collusion.
    So?

    You left out the part where he encouraged Comey to drop the investigation on Flynn and then told the Russian ambassador that he sacked Comey to relieve the pressure the Russian investigation was causing.

    BTW the Russian Bank VEB that Kushner was establishing a "back channel" with had a high level executive convicted for economic espionage and trying to recruit Carter Page, another Trump deputy.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=46601947

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    Darrin takes what Trump says at face value still

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    That's your opine. I obviously do not share it.
    You also are a Suns and Lakers fan at the same time, Bozo. Cognitive dissonance is strong in you.

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    You also are a Suns and Lakers fan at the same time, Bozo. Cognitive dissonance is strong in you.
    I'm also a Spurs Fan. Big deal.

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    Darrin takes what Trump says at face value still
    So do I. I can't speak for Darrin, but, I'll never leave his side. EVER.

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    So do I. I can't speak for Darrin, but, I'll never leave his side. EVER.
    Yeah but you're just clowning trying to stir the pot. Darrin is in earnest.

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    Yeah but you're just clowning trying to stir the pot. Darrin is in earnest.
    I won't defend my allegiance to Trump.

    It's my religion.

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    I won't defend my allegiance to Trump.

    It's my religion.

    I actually don't give one crap about Trump. I cringe whenever he speaks.

    I just think the collusion conspiracy is bogus.

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    Collusion delusion

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    Collusion delusion
    Collusion for a non existent scenario.

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    I actually don't give one crap about Trump. I cringe whenever he speaks.

    I just think the collusion conspiracy is bogus.
    semen shields for Trump more than anyone else here, but claims he doesn't give a crap about him.

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    Collusion delusion

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    I actually don't give one crap about Trump. I cringe whenever he speaks.
    or you use his claims as fact like you have several times with that stupid ing satellite associates quote

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    semen shields for Trump more than anyone else here...
    TSA may have something to say about that, tbh.

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    Nixon had no choice but to resign because there were tapes of his conversations admitting to the cover up. If no such tapes exist with Trump, he ain't going anywhere.

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    Nixon had no choice but to resign because there were tapes of his conversations admitting to the cover up. If no such tapes exist with Trump, he ain't going anywhere.
    Hallelujah!!!

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    Maybe one of you tinfoilers can offer a theory about how this collusion went down?

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    Collusion for a non existent scenario.

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    I actually don't give one crap about Trump. I cringe whenever he speaks.

    I just think the collusion conspiracy is bogus.
    And yet you defend him reflexively in all that he does.

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    And yet you defend him reflexively in all that he does.
    Link?

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    Maybe one of you tinfoilers can offer a theory about how this collusion went down?

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    Maybe one of you tinfoilers can offer a theory about how this collusion went down?
    The quid:

    Flynn got paid and lied about it.

    Flynn was paid about $33,000 by Russia's state-owned news agency, Russia Today, for a speech he gave in Moscow in 2015, but he did not disclose the payment on his security clearance application in January 2016, according to the House oversight committee.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/micha...igation-2017-4

    The Trumps have admitted to large amounts of assets and loans from Russia.

    The question came up again early last month after the golf writer James Dodson told WBUR that Trump's son Eric bragged in 2014 that the Trump family had secured access to $100 million from Russian lenders to fund their golf courses.

    "He just sort of tossed off that he had access to $100 million," Dodson said. "I said, 'Eric, who's funding? I know no banks — because of the recession, the Great Recession — have touched a golf course. You know, no one's funding any kind of golf construction. It's dead in the water the last four or five years.'

    "He said, 'Well, we don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.' I said, 'Really?' And he said, 'Oh, yeah. We've got some guys that really, really love golf, and they're really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.'"

    Eric has denied the story, which he called "completely fabricated." But it's not the first time one of Trump's sons has boasted of ties to Russia. In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. said the Trump Organization saw "a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

    "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," he said at the time.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...mueller-2017-6

    Kushner was ws talking with the Russian Bank/Espionage Front VEB:

    But a meeting in December between Kushner and Sergey Gorkov, the CEO of sanctioned Russian bank Vnesheconombank, is reportedly being scrutinized by Mueller's team as part of its investigation.

    Gorkov was appointed by Putin in January 2016 on the recommendation of Herman Gref, a Putin ally and the CEO of Russia's largest bank whom Trump met, along with at least 10 other Russian businessmen and oligarchs, while he was in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in November 2013.

    "The Russian market is attracted to me," Trump said shortly after the meeting. "Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room."

    He also tweeted: "TRUMP TOWER-MOSCOW is next."

    Reuters reported last month that the FBI was examining whether Russians suggested during Kushner's meeting with Gorkov at Trump Tower the lifting or relaxing of economic sanctions in exchange for Russian banks financing business ventures of Trump's associates and family.

    Kushner at the time was trying to find investors for a Fifth Avenue office building in Manhattan, though White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks denied in March when news broke of the meeting that they had discussed the construction project.

    Shortly thereafter, however, the bank told Reuters that Gorkov had met with Kushner in his capacity as "the head of Kushner companies" — not as a transition official, as the White House had claimed.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...mueller-2017-6

    Manafort worked for Yanukovich.

    “Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse,” the AP reports.

    Manafort confirmed he’d worked for the oligarch, who allegedly paid him some $10 million annually

    .........

    The AP report is also in line with what was previously known about Manafort. The longtime Republican fixer worked as a consigliere to now-deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin client. In August 2016, The New York Times reported on a dossier of do ents about Manafort emerging from Ukraine, including allegations that Manafort received almost $13 million in off-book cash payments. He was also part of a strange deal involving an investment fund he created backed by Deripaska to purchase a telecom company. But that deal apparently went south, and Manafort in 2014 sued in the Cayman Islands to recover some assets from Deripaska.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...nafort/520359/

    And there has been pro quo like:

    One strange episode that occurred in Cleveland was the writing of the GOP’s platform on Ukraine. The Republican Party has historically taken a hard line on Russia, and been critical of Russian expansionism around its borders. That included pushing back on Russia’s annexation of the Ukrainian region of Crimea after Yanukovych’s overthrow, a seizure that almost the entire international community views as unlawful. Some members of the platform committee wanted to insert a pledge to send defensive weapons to Ukrainians facing Russian incursion. But others steamrolled them, making sure the plank was not included.
    And Trump fellating Putin and ting on NATO every chance he gets.

    And Mueller is following the money for his investigation as well you can tell by who he is hiring:

    Robert Mueller in recent days has hired lawyers with extensive experience in dealing with fraud, racketeering, and other financial crimes to help him investigate whether President Donald Trump's associates colluded with Russia to meddle in the 2016 presidential election.

    Mueller, who was appointed as special counsel last month to lead the probe into Russia's election interference, is also homing in on money laundering and the business dealings of Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, according to reports in The New York Times and The Washington Post.

    The developments indicate Mueller is taking a follow-the-money approach to the investigation that could leave Trump's sprawling business empire hugely vulnerable.

    Mueller has hired Lisa Page and Andrew Weissmann. Page is a trial attorney in the Justice Department's organized-crime section whose cases centered on international organized crime and money laundering, and Weissmann is a seasoned prosecutor who oversaw cases against high-ranking organized criminals on Wall Street in the early 1990s and, later, against 30 people implicated in the Enron fraud scandal.

    Mueller has also recruited James Quarles, who specialized in campaign-finance research for the Watergate task force, according to Wired; Michael Dreeben, considered by some to be "the best criminal appellate lawyer in America"; and Aaron Zebley, a former senior counselor in the DOJ's National Security Division specializing in cybersecurity.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...mueller-2017-6

    These are all known facts and not conspiracies. They were paid by Russians and Russian interests and the lied about it.

    The tin foil bull is you and your wishcasting that there is a "deep state" organization out to get Trump that has no legs at all.

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