2017 NBA Draft Thread

[CGD]

So I guess this means Chicago will be picking 3 and praying that Josh falls to them. Would be an excellent way to hit the reset button for that franchise.

[Biggems]

I have 8 players that I am highly interested in.

C - Anzejs Pasecniks - Latvia 7'1 220
size, can play inside and out, rim protector we desperately need, athletic

PF - Isaiah Hartenstein - Germany 7'0 250
size, athletic, tough...outside game needs work

PF - Jordan Bell - Oregon 6'8 220
decent offensive player, outstanding rebounder, very good defender (I see him as being our Draymond Green)

G/F - Andrew White III - Syracuse 6'7 220
3-pt specialist, perimeter defender

G - Josh Hart - Villanova 6'5 210
3-pt shooter, nice mid-range game, can handle the rock, decent passer, very good defender

G - Canyon Barry - Florida 6'6 205
Highly intelligent, great Bball IQ, highly athletic, good size for his position, needs to be more consistent on offense

G - Derrick White - Colorado 6'4 190
very nice size for a PG, a good floor general, good perimeter defender

G - Kadeem Allen - Arizona 6'2 190
needs work with ball handling, but an outstanding defender (I mean a bulldog on defense)


If I had to pick my top 3 out of these
1. Pasecniks
2. Hart
3. Bell

I really wish we could get a few more picks in this draft.

[TimDunkem]

^Your three picks are good but the rest look like whiffs, tbh.

[picnroll]

Hartenstein will be a bust. Pass.

[TimDunkem]

^Yep agreed. I'm almost certain of it.

[cjw]

So I guess this means Chicago will be picking 3 and praying that Josh falls to them. Would be an excellent way to hit the reset button for that franchise.

I guess it's better to go with the sure thing than to hope you can sign Hayward or Griffin. But it's going to cost them the #3 and then some, plus take up that max salary slot.

Butler only hits them by $18.7mm. After waiving Zeller for nothing they'll still have just under $20 million of cap space. They can also free up about $3mm more with unguaranteed deals. There will be suitors for Bradley and Crowder too that can free up to the $30ish million max.

So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)

[SPURt]

Spurs will draft a white tbh.

Which one are you thinking gets drafted, Derrick or Andrew? I don't want either of them tbh fwiw.

[picnroll]

So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)

Ring chasing bigs for vet minimum are a dime a dozen.

[TimDunkem]

^It's like people forget how the NBA works every off-season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Philly murdered this deal. Wtf Ainge.

[SAGirl]

Philly murdered this deal. Wtf Ainge.

Don't know what's up until we see the rest of Ainge's moves.

[DPG21920]

Forget what BOS did (I see why they did it, but I would have moved IT for an asset and kept #1 IMO), this is about what PHI did.

When it's all said and done what they traded for this #1 pick was incredible (think it was MCW & #5 pick basically)

[DPG21920]

Lakers tried to get into the deal because the love Fultz. They must really not be sold on Russell which is crazy. I don't think they move Russ either, I think they view him as a 2-guard.

But wild they have a young lottery pick PG and are so anxious for another already. Does not bode well and I wonder what value he has on the trade market.

They may luck into taking Ball too. He has baggage (not just dad, but coming into workouts out of shape reportedly which is insane), but he projects to be a pretty damn good player statistically.

[Play Boban]

Which one are you thinking gets drafted, Derrick or Andrew? I don't want either of them tbh fwiw.

Not sure tbh. Lots of white, though. PATFO has to appeal to the klan faction of the Spurs' fanbase tbh.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So Philly are sending another very high pick to move from 3 to 1 - this is costly, but if they love Fultz that much is understandable. However, if Boston are ac ulating these picks to send for Butler, why would Chicago prefer them over the 1st pick from this draft? Perhaps they're not high on Fultz.

Also, to make the numbers work Boston would have to send either Bradley or Crowder.

[Darius Bieber]

I see a few mock drafts saying the Spurs might get Monte Morris with their second round pick. He had the highest assist to turnover ratio in the NCAA and should be seasoned as he was a four year college player. He might be a solid PG to back up Dejounte for the future. And it's a pretty late pick anyways, so it doesn't matter if he busts.

[cjw]

So Philly are sending another very high pick to move from 3 to 1 - this is costly, but if they love Fultz that much is understandable. However, if Boston are ac ulating these picks to send for Butler, why would Chicago prefer them over the 1st pick from this draft? Perhaps they're not high on Fultz.

Also, to make the numbers work Boston would have to send either Bradley or Crowder.

They actually wouldn't. Boston is under the cap (assuming they renounce guys, which they will) and cut Zeller before 7/2. Chicago wouldn't have to take back salary and could get a trade exception.

I do expect one of Bradley or Crowder to be dealt though to make room for another FA on top of Butler.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They actually wouldn't. Boston is under the cap (assuming they renounce guys, which they will) and cut Zeller before 7/2. Chicago wouldn't have to take back salary and could get a trade exception.

I do expect one of Bradley or Crowder to be dealt though to make room for another FA on top of Butler.

They'll be significantly under the cap after July 1st. As of the draft they'll be only a million or so under the cap so they couldn't pull off the Butler trade without including an impact player as well as the pick(s). And if they draft and sign their guy they'll have to wait for a while before being able to trade him, just like Cavs had to wait for the Love trade until some time in august ( unless they've changed this in the new CBA).

[CGD]

I guess it's better to go with the sure thing than to hope you can sign Hayward or Griffin. But it's going to cost them the #3 and then some, plus take up that max salary slot.

Butler only hits them by $18.7mm. After waiving Zeller for nothing they'll still have just under $20 million of cap space. They can also free up about $3mm more with unguaranteed deals. There will be suitors for Bradley and Crowder too that can free up to the $30ish million max.

So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)

If it comes to fruition, that's a good use of ulative assets by Boston after years of wondering what the plan was. Phillys plan is also coming together nicely (on paper anyway).

#trustdaprocess

[CGD]

Also, it's starting to feel like Ball will go to SAC for some reason, either through Lakers moving the pick or him just falling. Pure gut feel.

I can see Lakers and BOS/CHI going Jackson 2 and Tatum 3, then PHX really having to mull whether to draft ANOTHER PG at 4 (incidentally, in that case, I'm calling PHX asap about LMA).

[illusioNtEk]

This would be a good year to start collecting NBA cards.. where and when do you guys buy them at?

[Spurs9]

This would be a good year to start collecting NBA cards.. where and when do you guys buy them at?

I used to collect pretty heavily high end stuff, numbered autos etc. Had a ton of spurs stuff but eventually sold it, I was spending too much on stuff. Haven't been following stuff lately of what good sets are out there, but there are a number of shops around SA that sell boxes. Theres a place still open sports cards plus. Lots of places online sell too, used to mainly get upperdeck stuff. Wouldn't mind picking up a box tbh but I might get sucked back into the game.

[tholdren]

Lakers tried to get into the deal because the love Fultz. They must really not be sold on Russell which is crazy. I don't think they move Russ either, I think they view him as a 2-guard.

But wild they have a young lottery pick PG and are so anxious for another already. Does not bode well and I wonder what value he has on the trade market.

They may luck into taking Ball too. He has baggage (not just dad, but coming into workouts out of shape reportedly which is insane), but he projects to be a pretty damn good player statistically.

Dangelo russel is ty. Terribble pg.

[DPG21920]

At this point, it does not seem likely that BOS made this trade with getting a star in mind. Think about it - the #1 pick is certainly more valuable than the #3 pick so that would actually hurt them.

Yes, they picked up another first rounder in the deal however, they already had a boat load of picks which is more than enough to trade for Butler/PG.

So I think it was more about the fact that Ainge really didn't want to be forced into taking Fultz/Ball and he very well could still end up with Ball at #3 while getting an extra pick.

[JMarkJohns]

^Your three picks are good but the rest look like whiffs, tbh.

Allen is probably a top-10 defender in the draft. 6-2, but 6-10 wingspan, strong, built sturdy to take contact. Quality 3-point shooter, good around the basket when slashing. He dominated Fultz defensively in Early February, and shut down several other 20ppg types a few times.

Probably limited to PGs and smaller SGs, but so wing versatility isn't there, but DraftExpress likes him a lot as a developmental prospect for new Flex Contracts.

Not sure I'd draft him. I'd rather use 2nds on immediate impact or draft/stash, but just like TJ McConnell, he's worth a signing and extended look.