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Ryan Anderson. Both are streaky shooters. When they're feeling it there's nothing you can do to stop them... when they're not, then they become unplayable. Both are below average rebounders (always hovering around 4-6rpg) as well.
My worry with Bertans is he's already torn both his ACL's. That not only permanently hampered his athleticism, it also took away 2 years worth of on-court development.
Bertans was a rookie last year, but he's already 24 years old. He may well have had an all-star caliber ceiling, but with all these going against him, he may never ever reach it.
Ryan Anderson. Both are streaky shooters. When they're feeling it there's nothing you can do to stop them... when they're not, then they become unplayable. Both are below average rebounders (always hovering around 4-6rpg) as well.
Third big. His minutes are probably always going to have to be somewhat match-up dependant because he has no true defensive position and can't rebound either.
Bertans has shown some flashes of mobilty and rim protection that Anderson doesn't have. Bertans is also a more than decent passer and playmaker off the dribble.
I think the idiots who think this guy is going to be an All-Star must be klansmen blinded by their white supremacy tbh.
Or they don't hate all the players, like you do.
If he needs to be thrown into a deal as a sweetener, would you guys do it?
Even for a very good/great player? I'd do it without thinking about it. I'd offer him back to the Pacers in a Paul George trade proposal.
I would rather trade Aldridge and a draft pick than Bertans straight up for George.
Well the reason I think he should be offered in a package rather than a draft pick is because he's a young prospect and I think the Pacers would be interested in that more-so than a draft pick.
But yeah, I love his fearlessness shooting the ball - he's my type of shooter. It would be tough for me to include him in a trade, but I would probably do it for someone like Paul George.
It depends on how sweet he's making the deal. Like Gasol, Bertans and 29 for PG is an intriguing deal. But not two firsts, Green, Anderson and Bertans.
I would include Bertans in a deal for somebody of PG's caliber, but not Paul George on a one year rental. I would rather go for a player like Butler who could apparently be had for the right price. I would rather keep Davis and give Indy the pick.
Indy just might take the first of your proposals. Unless there was a very decent chance of re-signing PG, I am not sure that I would like to send Davis to Indy.
I think giving up both the pick and the young player is too much for a one season rental. Davis is due to get paid but it doesn't matter when in a season you won't have PG, the pick, or rights to Davis, who is not easily replaced. You can look for him in FA next season but will he want to join the Spurs after the trade? No.
Anderson at this point is easier to give up, particularly if Spurs don't plan on re-signing him after this season, but Pop has depressed his value not playing him enough at spots that are ideal for him and taking him out of the rotation. He's not enough sweetener IMO.
and that is likely one of the reasons the deal doesn't get done.
Thry could offer Danny whose spot in the rotation would be taken. But then you keep Davis. Danny and the pick should be enough if they don't want Pau. And that is counting on Spurs then keeping Simmons.
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I'm trying ot think of rim protectors that are great from 3.
His ceiling is something we really have not seen.
Rim protector, can put the ball on the floor, finishes above the rim, and is an elite outside shooter. If he can put on some strength so that he doesn't get pushed around on the block and post then he will be a singular talent.
That the best ya got, kid?
I would say no unless it's a no brainer. I want one more year to see what we really have in him.
Are you mad, bro?
He's different, definitely. The weakside, help-defensive blocks I guess could be a little Kirilenko-ish... that's kind of why I asked the question - he's got some really good skills on both sides of the ball that I haven't really seen together.
He's a legit marksman. He shoots like he was born to do it, not like he evolved into it. He fearless going to the hole and challenging at the rim, he can attack closeouts and make plays, and it's pretty crazy to think how he's come back athletically after those surgeries - has to say something about his character.
Hard for me to believe he'll be an All-Star, but - heath willing - I think he can be one of those guys that everyone knows and respects and is a threat to have "one of those nights."
Pretty much agree with this.
I think he can be a solid starter or a good sixth man. I just don't see him being an all star, I will happily eat my words if he evolves to that level of play though.
Imo he needs to add some bulk without affecting his speed. He could be a damn nice player.
I like the comparison to AK47, and don't think that's an unrealistic ceiling at all.
Agreed. And I bet Bertans carries more pounds/muscle than Ichabod47 ever did. Not a big deal in the modern NBA. Bertans ain't gonna be wrestling with many like Z-Bo like the old days.
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