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    Hmm frankly I saw that and I thought Simmons is getting at least 10 million... defense and playmaking is kinda his niche bc he's a streaky shooter and streaky scorer but his athleticism will allow him to make plays for others l like Iggy. If I am Jsimms agent I'd get him paid. Lol
    Simmons couldn't get more than 8.4 mo per year i think no ?

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    Clippers trying to trade for Paul George.
    Along with the rest of the league, tbh.

    The Clippers will have Jerry West to help convince him. Don't underestimate that. He'll be telling PG that he's going to quickly assemble the next powerhouse team, and that he (George) will be a big part of it. West understands players, and PG's ego. The Clippers have a better chance of something like that than they did just a few weeks ago.

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    didnt espn let him go as part of mass layoffs? He still puts espn in his name

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    LOL...Meanwhile Kawhi still has Lamarsha as his sidekick ..

    Folks here not wanting Chris Paul in an NBA equivalent of arms race ..

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    LOL...Meanwhile Kawhi still has Lamarsha as his sidekick ..
    Spurs FO would prefer to save face and try to win with LA instead of either trading him or finding additional help.

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    LeBron telling Cavs he wants to go to SA so they're finding his replacement first imo.

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    If the Lakers don't make a serious offer, Magic probably already knows he's going there, tbh..NBA is funny about tampering this is as obvious as it gets, man was on Jimmy Kimmel essentially admitting that he's going to the Lakers..
    Still would be a big mistake. Having to use cap space with LA's setup is no good. You need his bird rights to sign another FA and then PG.

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    LOL...Meanwhile Kawhi still has Lamarsha as his sidekick ..

    Folks here not wanting Chris Paul in an NBA equivalent of arms race ..
    Exactly.

    Every other team making moves to get better, but still so many Spurs fans response is:

    "Let's bring everyone back! Pay Patty! Pau is vital! Don't forget how good Tony was when he wasn't awful! He said he's coming back better than EVER!"

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    Exactly.

    Every other team making moves to get better, but still so many Spurs fans response is:

    "Let's bring everyone back! Pay Patty! Pau is vital! Don't forget how good Tony was when he wasn't awful! He said he's coming back better than EVER!"
    I've literally not seen any Spurs fans say that . Some are saying you don't have to do anything drastic just for the sake of doing it. Especially when in just one more year SA has a ton of flexibility.

    Big difference in the picture you are trying to paint Picasso

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    Spurs FO would prefer to save face and try to win with LA instead of either trading him or finding additional help.
    I believe the Spurs want to look like a "family" that doesn't betray their own and trading their first HUGE FA signing, who signed to be near his son and granny, would offset that myth.
    Like LA saying they signed Kobe to that stupid -eating contract to say "they take of their own", but without as much hypocrisy.

    Like falling on their own sword, and they probably don't have to.
    The Parker issue is even worse, unless they go the business route, which they won't, imo.

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    LOL...Meanwhile Kawhi still has Lamarsha as his sidekick ..

    Folks here not wanting Chris Paul in an NBA equivalent of arms race ..
    People seem to have this misguided idea that Spurs can just pull stars out of their ass, because of Ginobili, Parker and Leonard, far exceeding expectations and recently signing Aldridge and to a lesser extent Gasol. As intriguing as Murray is, he's nowhere near a sure fire prospect and they'd be fools to chance a good portion of Leonard's prime on his becoming a star. Even if he does, he doesn't time well with Aldridge and that still probably wouldn't be enough.

    I know Paul was still young in '11, but imagine Clippers not being interested because they had Bledsoe. You don't pass up elite talent, especially at position of need and in this era, where it's more than likely going to require being a historic team to win a championship.

    Spurs aren't lucking into legendary core and outsmarting everyone anymore, either in front office or on court. Sure, it was more special to do it that way, but if they want another legit shot(s), they need to keep up with the Joneses.

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    I believe the Spurs want to look like a "family" that doesn't betray their own and trading their first HUGE FA signing, who signed to be near his son and granny, would offset that myth.
    Like LA saying they signed Kobe to that stupid -eating contract to say "they take of their own", but without as much hypocrisy.

    Like falling on their own sword, and they probably don't have to.
    The Parker issue is even worse, unless they go the business route, which they won't, imo.
    No doubt. That's exactly what I think the Spurs are doing. Next year will be much of the same with mostly the same supporting cast. All because the Spurs are a "family".

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    Per Woj


    It may be more than a belief however, as Adrian Wojnarowski appeared on The Chris Mannix Show and said that George’s camp is flat out telling teams that regardless of who trades for him, George will be going to the Lakers in 2018:

    “Teams are trying to decide what’s the appropriate cost for a player who they’re being told, pretty adamantly by Paul George’s camp, will be a rental. No matter who you are, no matter who has checked in or who potentially will check in, they’re gonna be told that Paul George is gonna play the season out and then he’s gonna go to the Lakers, that that’s his plan.”
    Why even bother with this Kobe wannabe at this point?

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    I've literally not seen any Spurs fans say that . Some are saying you don't have to do anything drastic just for the sake of doing it. Especially when in just one more year SA has a ton of flexibility.

    Big difference in the picture you are trying to paint Picasso
    Anyone who wants to pay Patty is for more of the same and less flexibility in the future. Even then, flexibility for what? The class of 2018? Big prizes there's, no doubt.

    Anyone who thinks that the pro-Paul pursuers are wanting drastic change 'just for the sake​ of it' are missing the big picture.

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    Why even bother with this Kobe wannabe at this point?
    Because, there is a price worth paying even if it's for one year. I legit think Pau + #29 + a 2nd rounder might be the best offer they get and SA should absoultely do that.

    Lakers should be offering their 28th pick + Russell or Clarkson at a minimum to get this deal done.

    Just don't trade him to LA unless it's for 2 young players or the 2nd pick please.

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    Why even bother with this Kobe wannabe at this point?
    I respect his desire to play for who the he WANTS to play for, but yeah, you're right.

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    Because, there is a price worth paying even if it's for one year. I legit think Pau + #29 + a 2nd rounder might be the best offer they get and SA should absoultely do that.
    Not only yeah, but yeah. Acquire him with his Bird rights intact, and the opportunity to convince him to stay and team up with Kawhi? We can dream.

    If he insists on leaving for the Lakers the next year? Well - the Spurs would be in pretty much the same shape they would be in anyway.

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    Not only yeah, but yeah. Acquire him with his Bird rights intact, and the opportunity to convince him to stay and team up with Kawhi? We can dream.

    If he insists on leaving for the Lakers the next year? Well - the Spurs would be in pretty much the same shape they would be in anyway.
    Exactly - instead of having pau for one year (when you know you probably won't resign him) you have PG there and the hope you can convince him. If not, you're minus the same net player anyways and the 29th pick which is normally not a player that does much anyways.

    It does not set you back today or later at all really. But would IND do that deal over getting Randle/Russell and LA's 28th? I don't know.

    Or will some team give more talent up than SA or a better pick? Can absoultely see that.

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    David griffin out as cavs gm
    billups as front runner for replacement according to woj
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    You mean the WCF Spurs? Those turds?
    yup. those exact ones. The ones that only get to the WCF because 90% of NBA teams are even tier. BUt hey, if you like getting ass whipped by GS and the absolute ceiling being WCF, then enjoy.

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    yup. those exact ones. The ones that only get to the WCF because 90% of NBA teams are even tier. BUt hey, if you like getting ass whipped by GS and the absolute ceiling being WCF, then enjoy.
    Smh

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    dont worry, 78 year old turnobli will probably be back. So you can enjoy an older version of last years team.

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    I don't think PG likes Kawhi. There was a debate about who was better and then there wasn't a debate anymore. I think PG has a chip on his shoulder that everyone says Kawhi is better.

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    Why even bother with this Kobe wannabe at this point?
    dont get why he insists on self sabotage. What if he gets hurt? What if Lakers low ball him?

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