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    Trash's tapes? Suck Low says Trash will "address" the tapes this week.


    He's workin' ya's like a $3 .

    muhahahahahahahaha!!!

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    He's workin' ya's like a $3 .

    muhahahahahahahaha!!!
    Umm, you're the one that bought his and has been eating it for a year at this point.

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    Umm, you're the one that bought his and has been eating it for a year at this point.
    Been the best year of me life.

    Let us proceed...

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    Mueller may have to recuse himself


    RandomGuy you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?
    Depends on the construction of "personal relationship".

    Comey isn't the one being investigated.

    Hard to tell from a tweet, without researching.

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    However, the requirements that would be necessary to even be nominated mean that there are very few people who could even do the job. While not being an expert on the specific qualifications, I would venture you’d need someone who fits the following at a bare minimum:
    •Someone who understands Cons utional law
    •Someone who understands criminal law
    •Someone with an impeccable reputation for fairness, honesty and competence to run an investigation.
    •Someone that can get along with the various members of Congress since ultimately he will require their buy-in/assistance with whatever results come out of the investigation, and will require assistance as the investigation goes on. Finesse with the political aspect of the job is required, otherwise it could derail the investigation or cast doubt on the results.
    •Someone who understands the nuts and bolts of investigating, government regulations/codes/procedures that might apply and possibly a knowledge of how to prosecute criminal cases against prominent government officials.

    Not any lawyer in DC could do this job. The above would pretty much limit candidates to people who have either worked with or for the DOJ or the FBI or CIA.

    There would be very few people with the reputation, experience/credentials, and the credibility to fill the job. The only people you could even get buy-in for would be people who have actually spent time in government at a high level. And those people with that background would know other prominent people in government.

    Mueller in particular appears to fit all of the above. Republicans and Democrats appear to trust his capabilities and his ability to run an investigation without any hiccups.

    Frankly, Mueller would have to present to the Congress and ultimately to the public an iron clad case with no holes in it. Whatever conclusions he comes to will be heavily scrutinized both by Congress and by the public and the media, especially if his findings are damning to Trump and result in some kind of Congressional action against him. The stakes are just too high for the case to be anything but airtight for or against Trump. His friendship with Comey will not save a bad case or enhance a good one.
    Seems to sum it up for me.

    A flaw, but not a significant one. The problem with holding such, is that the pool of potential special counsel people is so small.

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    Been the best year of me life.

    Let us proceed...
    So you're an old white trash guy with an admittedly broken and vicariously living through Trump in your twilight years is the best you've ever been able to do in life?

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    i dont see how there's a conflict of interest if comey isnt the subject of the investigation.

    the result of the investigation or potential charges are completely inconsequential as to comey. he doesn't stand to benefit from it one way or the other.

    i'd have to sift through case law on what cons utes a conflict on interests in this scenario to be certain, and i dont have a ton of time. my gut says no. if you have to recuse yourself because you have a conflict with any tangentially related party to an investigation, then how the can people in government ever be investigated without a conflict somewhere?

    how can anybody in the FBI investigate if comey was the director of the FBI ...
    Seems I am not alone. +1

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    You just posed this question in the last few days. You've dodged multiple questions of mine for weeks. Quid pro quo my ass.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9049563

    I asked mine first.

    In response to my question, you have simply asked a slew of questions in response.

    I can't monitor 100% of your posts to follow along, sorry.

    I can, however, hold your feet to the fire when you are being evasive and intellectually dishonest, which you do all the time.

    If it makes you feel better, pick one you want answered.

    Otherwise I am going to hammer this home.

    Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

    97-2

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

    My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

    What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?
    [doesn't answer, asks a question instead]
    [enormous picture with the word "DODGE" redacted]
    Let's try this again.

    What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?
    [doesn't answer, asks a question instead]
    Hmm. I didn't think my question was that hard.

    It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

    You would do well to think about why that is. Here is something you might find helpful.

    https://designmatrix.wordpress.com/2...ual-honesty-2/
    10. Be willing to publicly acknowledge when a point or criticism is good. If someone is unable or unwilling to admit when their opponent raises a good point or makes a good criticism, it demonstrates an unwillingness to participate in the give-and-take that characterizes an honest exchange.
    So, let's try one more time, so we can get to something we can agree with. A good debate has to establish facts, and lay ground work, and that can't be done if basic reality can't be agreed on.

    What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

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    who hasn't killed anybody?

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    dangerous crackpot, they disrespect us all the time
    couldn't we be friends instead?

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    terrorist government
    we can work together for peace

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    if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is "sit home and watch Sony television".
    [Putins]'s doing a great job

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    "People don't realize Canada has been really rough with the United States," Trump said before signing an executive order on an agriculture task force on Tuesday." They've outsmarted our politicians for years."
    "I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much...Hats off to the Russians."

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    Trump has had harsher words for ing Canada, than Russia.

    Let that sink in. Take all the time you need.

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    Most transparent administration ever


    Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library

    JUNE 19, 2017

    Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the iden ies of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.

    The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”

    The agency also informed Judicial Watch that it would not turn over communications with any Intelligence Community member or agency concerning the alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election; the hacking of DNC computers; or the suspected communications between Russia and Trump campaign/transition officials. Specifically, the NSC told Judicial Watch:

    Do ents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.

    Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) April 4 request sought:

    1.) Any and all requests for information, analyses, summaries, assessments, transcripts, or similar records submitted to any Intelligence Community member agency or any official, employee, or representative thereof by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice regarding, concerning, or related to the following:

    Any actual or suspected effort by the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government to influence or otherwise interfere with the 2016 presidential election.
    The alleged hacking of computer systems utilized by the Democratic National Committee and/or the Clinton presidential campaign.
    Any actual or suspected communication between any member of the Trump presidential campaign or transition team and any official or employee of the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government.
    The iden ies of U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.
    2.) Any and all records or responses received by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council in response to any request described in part 1 of this request.

    3.) Any and all records of communication between any official, employee, or representative of the Department of any Intelligence Community member agency and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council regarding, concerning, or related to any request described in Part 1 of this request.

    The time frame for this request was January 1, 2016, to the April 4, 2017.

    While acknowledging in its FOIA request that “we are cognizant of the finding by the Court of Appeals … that [the NSC] “does not exercise sufficiently independent authority to be an ‘agency’ for purposes of the Freedom of Information Act,” Judicial Watch argued:

    The records sought in this request pertain to actions by the former National Security Advisor that demonstrate a much higher degree of independent authority than was contemplated by the court; specifically, the issuance of directives to the Intelligence Community related to the handling of classified national security information…

    The recent revelations of the role of Susan Rice in the unmasking the names of U.S. citizens identified in the course of intelligence collection activities and the potential that her actions contributed to the unauthorized disclosure of classified national security information are matters of great public interest.

    Judicial Watch has filed six FOIA lawsuits related to the surveillance, unmasking, and illegal leaking targeting President Trump and his associates (see here, here, here, here, here and here).

    “Prosecutors, Congress, and the public will want to know when the National Security Council shipped off the records about potential intelligence abuses by the Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House to the memory hole of the Obama Presidential Library,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “We are considering our legal options but we hope that the Special Counsel and Congress also consider their options and get these records.”

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...obama-library/

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    bad ass

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    Democratic lawmakers press Flynn on Middle East trips

    Democratic lawmakers investigating fired national security adviser Michael Flynn's security clearance said Monday

    they could not find the hotel Flynn said he stayed at during a 2015 trip to Saudi Arabia or

    any record of a conference he reported attending.

    In a letter to companies for which Flynn worked, U.S. Representatives Elijah mings and Eliot Engel requested do ents related to Flynn's work in Saudi Arabia, Russia and other countries. They said

    Flynn had not accurately reported his foreign travels and contacts in a 2016 application to renew his security clearance.

    While Flynn disclosed an October 2015 trip to Saudi Arabia, mings and Engel said Flynn omitted key details and said they could not identify any conference he may have attended or find the hotel he reported staying at during the trip.

    The two lawmakers said they were most

    troubled by the lack of any Flynn record identifying "even a single foreign government official he had contact with in the seven years prior to submitting his security clearance application."

    mings and Engel also cited a recent Newsweek report which said Flynn took a trip to the Middle East in the summer of 2015 in pursuit of a joint U.S.-Russian venture to develop nuclear facilities, in a deal to be financed by Saudi Arabia.

    "If this press report is accurate,

    General Flynn's failure to report this trip and any contacts with foreign government officials about this Saudi-Russian nuclear proposal

    appears to be a potential violation" of a law against making false statements to federal officials
    ,

    the letter said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...litics+News%29

    Flynn is the Little Dutch Boy with his stuck in the holding back the flood of Trash + entourage corruption.



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    I'm on pins and needles.

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    Flynn is Trash's Alexander Butterfield

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    Most transparent administration ever


    Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library

    JUNE 19, 2017

    Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the iden ies of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.

    The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”

    The agency also informed Judicial Watch that it would not turn over communications with any Intelligence Community member or agency concerning the alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election; the hacking of DNC computers; or the suspected communications between Russia and Trump campaign/transition officials. Specifically, the NSC told Judicial Watch:

    Do ents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.

    Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) April 4 request sought:

    1.) Any and all requests for information, analyses, summaries, assessments, transcripts, or similar records submitted to any Intelligence Community member agency or any official, employee, or representative thereof by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice regarding, concerning, or related to the following:

    Any actual or suspected effort by the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government to influence or otherwise interfere with the 2016 presidential election.
    The alleged hacking of computer systems utilized by the Democratic National Committee and/or the Clinton presidential campaign.
    Any actual or suspected communication between any member of the Trump presidential campaign or transition team and any official or employee of the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government.
    The iden ies of U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.
    2.) Any and all records or responses received by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council in response to any request described in part 1 of this request.

    3.) Any and all records of communication between any official, employee, or representative of the Department of any Intelligence Community member agency and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council regarding, concerning, or related to any request described in Part 1 of this request.

    The time frame for this request was January 1, 2016, to the April 4, 2017.

    While acknowledging in its FOIA request that “we are cognizant of the finding by the Court of Appeals … that [the NSC] “does not exercise sufficiently independent authority to be an ‘agency’ for purposes of the Freedom of Information Act,” Judicial Watch argued:

    The records sought in this request pertain to actions by the former National Security Advisor that demonstrate a much higher degree of independent authority than was contemplated by the court; specifically, the issuance of directives to the Intelligence Community related to the handling of classified national security information…

    The recent revelations of the role of Susan Rice in the unmasking the names of U.S. citizens identified in the course of intelligence collection activities and the potential that her actions contributed to the unauthorized disclosure of classified national security information are matters of great public interest.

    Judicial Watch has filed six FOIA lawsuits related to the surveillance, unmasking, and illegal leaking targeting President Trump and his associates (see here, here, here, here, here and here).

    “Prosecutors, Congress, and the public will want to know when the National Security Council shipped off the records about potential intelligence abuses by the Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House to the memory hole of the Obama Presidential Library,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “We are considering our legal options but we hope that the Special Counsel and Congress also consider their options and get these records.”

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...obama-library/
    Obama has horrible with transparency. He failed on that pledge almost as soon as he took office and realized the practicality of the pledge. A bit like Trump with ... everything.

    Obama was also horrible about prosecuting whistleblowers.

    He did, however release his ing taxes.

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    I'm on pins and needles.
    We will shoot down your planes in Syria if they cross a line.

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