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    There is nothing official on the table so there is no choice that I know of. I'm saying I highly doubt IND would do LMA for PG straight up. They are going to want a pick.

    Getting a player of LMA's caliber, if that appeals to them, would probably reduce the quality of the pick (like Spurs 1st at #29) vs getting a lesser player and wanting a better pick (lottery). Who knows.

    LMA + the 29 pick for PG + the 47 pick. Then the Spurs could draft another good player on a Pacers throw-away pick. The Pacers would never get over the redass from that.

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    I love how the Spurs operate but it sucks at these times when not even Woj scoops the Spurs.

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    Probably the same thing voing through his mind every other offseason. Real #1s relish the chance to beat teams that are hyped or viewed as better on paper. KL is not KD, so it just makes him more motivated. Take note le
    I just want to add something to this. Does anyone know for sure if Kawhi was not at the Spurs' pitch/meeting with KD last off-season? I'm sure I read that he wasn't, people bring up him just becoming a father for him not being there, but I think if he wanted KD on the team, he would have been at that meeting.

    I don't think Kawhi gives a about KD. If he wasn't at that meeting, I don't think he wanted him on the team.

    I've literally not seen any Spurs fans say that . Some are saying you don't have to do anything drastic just for the sake of doing it. Especially when in just one more year SA has a ton of flexibility.

    Big difference in the picture you are trying to paint Picasso
    lol. I like the Picasso reference.

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    Why even bother with this Kobe wannabe at this point?
    Wow, if that is true, does he realize how badly he's screwing over the Pacers by saying this? They won't be able to get anything for him. He's basically screwing over everyone, even the Lakers. lol. I guess like DPG said, this is the way you'd want him to go to the Lakers so that they can use cap space on him.

    I wonder if the Spurs would still be interested in a one year rental if the price is cheap?

    I don't think PG likes Kawhi. There was a debate about who was better and then there wasn't a debate anymore. I think PG has a chip on his shoulder that everyone says Kawhi is better.
    You might be right. Kind of in the same way that we perceive Kawhi doesn't like KD after his system player comments. Those comments involved 3 people - KD, Kawhi and George, so I guess Kawhi might not even like George either if George also believes that he's better than Kawhi.

    Does anyone know for sure if Kawhi was at that KD pitch/meeting last off-season. If not, did he reach out to KD to even talk to him?
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    I just want to add something to this. Does anyone know for sure if Kawhi wasn't at the Spurs' pitch/meeting with KD last off-season? I'm sure I read that he wasn't, people bring up him just becoming a father for him not being there, but I think if he wanted KD on the team, he would have been at that meeting.

    I don't think Kawhi gives a about KD. If he wasn't at that meeting, I don't think he wanted him on the team.
    He wasn't at the meeting. I doubt Kawhi can do an insincere pitch. He's just not even into being social. Him and LMA don't talk off the court. LMA said they don't know each other off the court well at all. It's actually a miracle Kyle and Murray are training with him in the summer IMO. Kawhi doesn't do hypocritical. And he's leading by example.

    I bet he's welcoming anyone Spurs bring over but not caring much about catering to divas. Leave that to Pop.

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    Pronouns but no proper names. Talking about Pau?

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    He wasn't at the meeting. I doubt Kawhi can do an insincere pitch. He's just not even into being social. Him and LMA don't talk off the court. LMA said they don't know each other off the court well at all. It's actually a miracle Kyle and Murray are training with him in the summer IMO. Kawhi doesn't do hypocritical. And he's leading by example.

    I bet he's welcoming anyone Spurs bring over but not caring much about catering to divas. Leave that to Pop.

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    Pronouns but no proper names. Talking about Pau?
    That is correct - he = Pau

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    Again, like his fit better than Paul, and him giving up on a five-year deal might signal that he's willing to take what the Spurs can offer without giving up key guys.
    Lots of names in this thread. Who is a better fit?

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    Lots of names in this thread. Who is a better fit?
    His = Lowry.

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    That is correct - he = Pau
    Pau would be doing himself a solid, too, by giving his team a little more room.

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    His = Lowry.

    Don't worry, I'm here to assist.
    Thanks! If posters don't quote who they are responding to or use a proper name, it can be unclear who they are talking about.

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    Pau would be doing himself a solid, too, by giving his team a little more room.
    I mean, it only matters if SA actually needs that. I'm not sure how much it would really help. Let's say Pau take a 2 year / 20M deal. That gives him 4M more guaranteed and shaves off 6M this year for SA. What does that really do without other moves?

    Even if Pau does that (which I think is best case scenario) and SA stretches TP, that has SA at approximately 77M in salaries with a 102M cap. That is not even enough for a max deal with Pau taking less and TP stretched.

    Obviously it could help open up money, just not sure SA would need it and do they want Pau on the books next year?

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    This came out of an old SpursTalk archive. Bottom line, CP3's agent was shopping him while he was still under contract to NO. The league issued an ominous-sounding memo, telling teams that they better not have contact with Paul or his agent. What I remember from the time was that they were pissed at the agent, but my quick search didn't find any reference to that. I also remember a Hawks staff member who got fined just for saying that Paul "would look good in a Hawks' uniform".

    Anyway, someone posted one article from that time, and it includes some verbiage about what the league is trying to prevent. You can decide for yourselves if this is similar enough:

    Paul, through his new agent, Leon Rose, informed the Hornets recently that he wants to be traded and gave the team a list of preferred destinations. Paul and Rose met Monday in New Orleans with Hornets president Hugh Weber, GM Dell Demps and coach Monty Williams to hash out their differences. Not surprisingly, everyone emerged from the meeting saying they've all agreed to get along. But we know better, and so does the league office. Sources told CBSSports.com that Monday's meeting did not quell Paul's desire to push for a trade and this his representatives planned to continue applying pressure to get him out of New Orleans. The league memo Tuesday only underscored the reality facing the Hornets.

    But under league rules, such conversations can only be initiated or approved by the Hornets. So on Tuesday, the league made a strong statement in defense of an organization that faces an uphill battle in keeping its franchise player happy. The last thing Demps and Williams need is to have Rose and William Wesley recruiting trade partners through back channels -- which is how much of the business of the league is done.

    "This kind of thing happens all the time," said a person within the NBA. "But the league wants to have more control over the players. They don't want players working behind the scenes to get themselves traded."

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    Hmm. It seems to me even back then they knew it happens all the time...
    Apparently the league wanted more control over players under contract but stars have all the leverage and they apply pressure.... if that pressure is ignored then this happens.

    Seems l like all this collusion is happening openly now. I hope RC is busy too getting the proverbial ducks in a row and see what he can catch. Most of the interesting movements appear to be trades.

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    What's Kyle talking about?

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    What's Kyle talking about?
    Some reports were saying he had "zero interest" in re-signing with Raps.

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