Woj: Pau Gasol to opt out and re-sign long-term with Spurs

[DPG21920]

the spurs will need flexibility if they want to bring in Hanga and not lose any of the current roster, specifically mills and simmons.

That is incorrect. Hanga can be brought in no problem even with keeping Mills & Simmons. Pau opting out only saves Spurs owners money in that situation and nothing else.

[cd021]

Hopefully the Spurs turn the lights off at their offices and change their phone numbers when Pau and his agent come knocking to resign.

Ghosting tbh

[rjv]

That is incorrect. Hanga can be brought in no problem even with keeping Mills & Simmons. Pau opting out only saves Spurs owners money in that situation and nothing else.

you don't think that 2018 is part of that equation? or minor additions as opposed to a big name FA?

[TheGreatYacht]

Red is asking for $20 million and Green is a better player btw.

lmfaoooooo

[HarlemHeat37]

Red is asking for $20 million and Green is a better player btw.

Re will get his money and fanfare due to his skin color, tbh..all his metrics fell off a cliff, this season, his on/off metrics were all around 0 or even in the negatives IIRC..

Also, he shot 36% from 3 during Chris Paul's absence..any team that signs him better have some shot creators (Spurs don't, they were a bottom 5 team in 3s generated off drives)

Some team with a heavy white fanbase will sign him..

[cd021]

lmfaoooooo

I stand by what I said; you replace Green with Red and the Spurs would be worse off.

[cd021]

Re will get his money and fanfare due to his skin color, tbh..all his metrics fell off a cliff, this season, his on/off metrics were all around 0 or even in the negatives IIRC..

Also, he shot 36% from 3 during Chris Paul's absence..any team that signs him better have some shot creators (Spurs don't, they were a bottom 5 team in 3s generated off drives)

Some team with a heavy white fanbase will sign him..

Utah, Boston are the only teams that come to mind.

[rjv]

Utah, Boston are the only teams that come to mind.

those were the exact teams i thought of right off the bat.

[HarlemHeat37]

Utah, Boston are the only teams that come to mind.

I was just playing about that part, tbh

I have no idea who would be willing to pay that much for a worse and older version of Patty Mills..maybe Brooklyn? Dallas is a team that likes to throw tons of money at washed-up players, as well..

[Mikeanaro]

^^I'm sure it's going to be in this range. Pau's not going to go 3 for $24M. His self-evaluated worth will be much higher than that.

I think he should get new mirrors or bigger TVs because if his self evaluated worth is any bigger than vet minimum he is mental asylum material.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Been hearing Re to the Sixers. They can afford to pay him big time since they have no reason to be stingy for the next couple years. He'll get looks off Embiid, Simmons, and Fultz. If they get injured, who cares he got paid.

[HarlemHeat37]

Been hearing Re to the Sixers. They can afford to pay him big time since they have no reason to be stingy for the next couple years. He'll get looks off Embiid, Simmons, and Fultz. If they get injured, who cares he got paid.

Good point, I could see that fit..they could use a veteran shooter, and their athleticism would be a nice mask for his deficiencies..

If the Spurs traded Green, Philly would be a nice landing spot for him, too, from a fit perspective..

[Ron Swanson]

Hopefully the Spurs turn the lights off at their offices and change their phone numbers when Pau and his agent come knocking to resign.

New phone. Who dis?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Good point, I could see that fit..they could use a veteran shooter, and their athleticism would be a nice mask for his deficiencies..

If the Spurs traded Green, Philly would be a nice landing spot for him, too, from a fit perspective..

Don't remember if it's been stated before, but another idea brought up by Nate Duncan was sign and trading Simmons for Jahlil Okafor if he gets too pricey. May be worth the gamble since he's still on his rookie contract.

[Keepin' it real]

Not sure this means cp3 is a lock but I definitely think there's strong mutual interest. However, if the spurs wiff on Paul, I could see the Spurs paying to bring George Hill back.

That'll intimidate the Warriors.

[SAGirl]

Good news. Thank you Pau.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Been hearing Re to the Sixers. They can afford to pay him big time since they have no reason to be stingy for the next couple years. He'll get looks off Embiid, Simmons, and Fultz. If they get injured, who cares he got paid.

That would be an excellent fit with the need they have in the backcourt even with Fultz.

[SAGirl]

Pau might be dodging a trade. Hoping Minny backs up a truck for Gasol and lets the Spurs off. That said, I don't appreciate the Spurs using cap space for the third year in a row. It's getting really tight at this point.

I thought the same concerning the trade dodging.
Spurs surely intended the Draconian if he didn't opt out .... but this is fine.
It's still not enough for a max deal I think right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought the same concerning the trade dodging.
Spurs surely intended the Draconian if he didn't opt out .... but this is fine.
It's still not enough for a max deal I think right?

If they renounce Pau, Manu, and Dedmon then they are ~$13m under the cap.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

If they renounce everyone but Patty and Simmons then they will be down to $83.3m of a $101m cap when you add the remainder still under contract and the dead money of TD and LJC.

[SAGirl]

He's a free agent now. He'll get something like that on the open market easily. Doesn't mean the Spurs have to match. While it's just good business to say "working on" at this stage rather than having agreed to a contract already, I'm not sure that it's a done deal that he's back. Until we hear about a trade for LMA, Green or Parker, the Spurs need Pau's money. It's not clear how much will be left for him.

This answers my previous question. I order to trade Tony Spurs will have to send sweeteners. I don't think Pop wants to give up sweeteners on top of his hope Tony rehabs and is back... just a hunch.

Both LMA and Danny may be shopped. I don't think Pop is that happy with Lamarcus but it's going to depend on what he gets back. He still needs a legit starting big. IMO like coach says, Danny is at risk to be traded.

[cd021]

Pau might be dodging a trade. Hoping Minny backs up a truck for Gasol and lets the Spurs off. That said, I don't appreciate the Spurs using cap space for the third year in a row. It's getting really tight at this point.

Would hope that they make a ridiculous offer to Iggy first, something like 3 years $66 million just so Iggy can either bolt or force GSW to pay up and make him their 3rd highest payed player (After Curry, & KD, and ahead of Klay and Draymond)

[SAGirl]

Or that they want to go into the draft knowing whom they can trade.

I like this.
Finally Rc doing his job.
Standing pat wasn't going to cut it .... They had too many guys old and on the downturn and some injuries....

[raybies]

Well Spurs need a playmaker and a finishing big. Any ideas what they could do with the money? And how much we looking at in Cap Space. With Pau and David opting out, Manu, Patty, Dedmon renounced, how much we looking at? Any chance we just resign Jonathon and Dedmon? I'm guessing we'd have about 20 million in cap. Any players around that price that can help move the needle?

Ive seen a lot of bigs being worked out by Spurs so far, so I guess that's the direction. I personally don't think Dedmon is worth the Price but I'd definitely make Simmons a priority for anything 12 million per a year or under and he has a small cap hold, so if he doesn't sign anything too soon and force the Spurs hand we'd still have a cap and sign him after.

[SAGirl]

My guess he wanted more control over his situation. Spurs could of traded him to anyone however unlikely but now he can do as he pleases.

Exactly. He's in the driver's seat if where he plays next.

[cd021]

If the Spurs traded Green, Philly would be a nice landing spot for him, too, from a fit perspective..

Someone on the board mentioned Holmes + 36th and 39th pick for Green as a trade idea. That would work for both sides. Spurs get two high seconds rounders to go along with 29 and add Holmes who was really productive last season and making very little money next season.

Green gives Philly shooting- which they desperately need and defense and should fit pretty well with Fultz, Simmons, and Embidd