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    Not sure if there was a more depressing career arc, tbh..We are talking about someone who was probably on pace to be a Top 5 C ever..Everything went south after he left ORL..
    He had that back injury. Never fully recovered. Only glimpses here and there.

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    pathetic

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    The Bobcats are like Dennys. It's not a place you go to, but a place you end up at.

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    The Bobcats are like Dennys. It's not a place you go to, but a place you end up at.
    Good one!

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    Hes always had the mental toghness of a pre pubescent girl tbqh

    Not sure why ppl were into him at all

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    Man, just the other day he was on ESPN, talking about how good it was to be home and he was excited to get better. He said they had a new great gm from the warriors that knows winning ball, experience with san Antonio and will make good moves.

    First thing that Gm did was get rid of dwights awful contract, and moved up in a deep draft. Guess he was riggt.. but that's cold .

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    Anyway I will always like him he is the one who preferred lose money and play with ball hog beard rather than playing with kobe...

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    Terrible trade by Hawks. Sure, they gain $11+M in cap space for '18-'19, but lose that same amount in '19-'20. They also moved down 10 spots in the 2nd round.

    I don't care how much Howard's slipped (and as much as he has, the extent to which is overstated), how much of a malcontent he was or how low his value was: trading him for the sake of it was pointless.

    If/when they lose Millsap, they'll have one legit starter under contract, in Schroder and he doesn't even rank in the top half of starters at his position.

    Excellent trade by Hornets, who clearly upgrade at center and in picks and should now operate over cap, opening up MLE. They also lose extra year on Plumlee's albatross. There's literally no downside to this for them.


    Agree on his arc, but even at his best he wasn't going to pass Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Hakeem, Moses and Robinson (David was far more skilled than Dwight on O). Never was going to be Top 5, but might have had a shot at Ewing territory. Not even that now.
    Duncan too; he counts as both a power forward and a center. Injuries cut Howard's prime short, but we saw, if not his absolute best, at least close to it and it wasn't at that level.

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    LOL This needs a drill sergeant as a coach tbh.... no effort into learning any post moves
    Tbh I think all the people talking about how he has no post moves is what ruined his career. He became obsessed with proving those people wrong...while still not being good in the post. Dude was great in the PnR in Orlando, and then stopped wanting to do it once he got to the Lakers because of all the people talking about his post game. He quit the rockets because they weren't giving him enough post touches. He quit the Hawks because they weren't giving him enough post touches.

    If he'd just accepted what he was, he'd have been much better off. Modern NBA centers don't need post moves.

    If someone could convince him of that instead of just giving him lip service about how they're gonna use him, I think he'd be a great asset still...even with his contract. Cavs should have traded Tristan Thompson for him tbh.

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