Spurs officially looking to trade LMA

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why were his numbers down? Be specific. Or is this just your vague analysis with little substance that you keep parroting?

How not to be an intellectual coward:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...aldrila01.html

His points and rebounds are down ~20% from the 23 and 10 he averaged his last two years in POR.

[sasaint]

So who is involved? LMA for 12, Jackson and Stanley Johnson? I could live with that.

Don't see Pop getting jazzed over Kackson. Why are people so high on Johnson?

[SAGirl]

But how much more has his Spurs bashing undermined his value? I fear that THIS YEAR the Spurs will get pennies on the dollar.

To be fair, Manu4tres was very adamant he had to be traded last season b4 Spurs were in this exact situation...

[sexinthatsx]

I am now thinking this is damaging for the Spurs trying to attract FA. They have to tread water with Gasol too. His shortcomings were well known and prior to his joining the Spurs he led the bulls to the lottery even with Jimmy Butler in the team in the east conference. Spurs should have never gone for him in restrospect, but Tim's retirement hit POP and RC specially hard and they didn't think want to rebuild after Durant spurned them. Regardless Pau went from starter to bench player in the Spurs and his production declined too. Can't have him adding fuel to the fire.

I d try to keep Lee he was great in the system and genuinely enjoyed playing with others.

wait what? Pau is opting out to get a longer contract with the Spurs. For every one mentally weak player that wants out of the Spurs system, there's 10 others that got fat contracts out of it and flourished. Plus, if you think it's damaging you probably haven't watched the Spurs enough to know that Richard Jefferson got the same treatment.

[raybies]

I like the Paul George talk... boosts LMAs value. Pretty much what happened with Parker and Hill

[SAGirl]

Don't see Pop getting jazzed over Kackson. Why are people so high on Johnson?

He's worse than Kyle offensively. Kyle's thing is getting in spectator mode often, not a lack of ability. Johnson is a tremendously strong athlete with no skill whatsoever.

He is young though, but I think a long term project. I haven't been impressed by him.

[apalisoc_9]

Hope they dont trade for a white American...

[sasaint]

To be fair, Manu4tres was very adamant he had to be traded last season b4 Spurs were in this exact situation...

Preaching to the choir.

[RD2191]

Hope they dont trade for a white American...

[sasaint]

He's worse than Kyle offensively. Kyle's thing is getting in spectator mode often, not a lack of ability. Johnson is a tremendously strong athlete with no skill whatsoever.

He is young though, but I think a long term project. I haven't been impressed by him.

Projects we ready have.

[DPG21920]

How not to be an intellectual coward:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...aldrila01.html

His points and rebounds are down ~20% from the 23 and 10 he averaged his last two years in POR.

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.

I never said there was a reason. If I were to say that "there is a reason his numbers are down" then you would have a point. Unfortunately for you, I did not. Look up what a strawman is and educate yourself a bit.

My assertion was that his numbers were down. I proved it. No it was easy but that is besides the point. I am not the one making specious claims.

As for unreasonable standards, when I asked you to justify why you think that the Spurs could have done more in the offense to help him I named half a dozen specific things they did to help him. I am not asking you to do anything that I am not willing to do myself.

Instead we get your typical halfassed analysis that you whine about when asked to justify it.

[SAGirl]

Doesn't matter in the end. Dedmon walked, LaSoftus doesn't want to be here, TP is hurt, Manu can't be relied on, Simmons is going to get a huge contract, Mills and Green suck.

Last year was THAT team's last chance.

TIM with a good take. Have to give credit where it's due. Except I don't think Green sucks but he's a roleplayer that is enhanced playing with stars and when he has opportunity to get rhythm. He didn't get many with LMA.

[DPG21920]

But, but, but Gospursgojas says trading for picks is going into rebuilding mode!

I mean, it kind of is. It's a great opportunity to reset and quickly rebuild, but it's a big change. Especially if you trade Danny too.

That would be no LMA/Pau (maybe)/Danny/Mills (most likely)/Manu (maybe)/Dedmon/Lee (most likely) for some unknowns and a lot of cap space with no guarantee of replacing the talent you lost immediately with better talent.

The potential is damn good though especially you get a lottery pick for LMA and a first rounder for DG. 3 first round picks (including 1 lottery pick) + $45-50M in cap space to replace LMA/Danny/Dedmon/Pau?

[TimDunkem]

TIM with a good take. Have to give credit where it's due.

I'm capable now and then.

[tonight...you]

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.

Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.

[DPG21920]

Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.

I'm not . I'm mocking him for how he talks to people. He seems to think I care enough to go into detailed breakdowns for him when he's just an annoying idiot.

He asks for the most ridiculous things (Prove to me with examples exactly how what you say is true - when it's painfully obvious he's just ignorant on the subject).

[TimDunkem]

I mean, it kind of is. It's a great opportunity to reset and quickly rebuild, but it's a big change. Especially if you trade Danny too.

That would be no LMA/Pau (maybe)/Danny/Mills (most likely)/Manu (maybe)/Dedmon/Lee (most likely) for some unknowns and a lot of cap space with no guarantee of replacing the talent you lost immediately with better talent.

The potential is damn good though especially you get a lottery pick for LMA and a first rounder for DG. 3 first round picks (including 1 lottery pick) + $45-50M in cap space to replace LMA/Danny/Dedmon/Pau?

It all goes without saying. It's what the Spurs need to do in order to contend on the fly.

As I've said before, last year was that team's last chance. We have the second best player in the world and some decent pieces. The Spurs are in a good spot to rebuild on the fly.

[tonight...you]

I'm not . I'm mocking him for how he talks to people. He seems to think I care enough to go into detailed breakdowns for him when he's just an annoying idiot.

He asks for the most ridiculous things (Prove to me with examples exactly how what you say is true - when it's painfully obvious he's just ignorant on the subject).

Lol... right on. I was sitting there thinking- This is getting weird.

[RD2191]

Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.

it's like that time he couldn't get on the rides at Disney world because of the height requirements

[DPG21920]

It would be dope, if SA is blowing it up anyways (to a degree) for SA to get Paul George.

[DPG21920]

It all goes without saying. It's what the Spurs need to do in order to contend on the fly.

As I've said before, last year was that team's last chance. We have the second best player in the world and some decent pieces. The Spurs are in a good spot to rebuild on the fly.

I agree. I'm more for trading LMA and DG than just trading DG tbh..at least that allows a full reset and custom build + getting a lot of the youth pipeline likely filled up (with a possible lottery level talent where SA doesn't miss)

[tonight...you]

it's like that time he couldn't get on the rides at Disney world because of the height requirements

HA HA HA HA! What? He's short? You've hung out with the Deeps?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol... right on. I was sitting there thinking- This is getting weird.

In another thread, he said that Spurs could have done more to help LMA. Another poster and I asked him to explain that. I went on to explain how they used staggered screens, pnr, weakside motion, backpicks, and misdirection to help him get post position.

Now he is taking this routine about how I am stupid and don't understand the offense when it should be self evident to explain his inability to explain himself. I've since got bored with it and moved on but he still maintains feelings apparently.

He does not like it when I describe his takes as facile analysis I guess.

[TheCerebral1]

Bye you fraud!