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I think he will be great for off the bench. I like murray as the stating point guard
A year or two will have Spurstalk fans saying I knew he was going to a good pick/ I knew he was going to suck. Stake your claim for future bookmarking.
We already have some who've made it clear what they expect. I'm in the good pick camp. George Hill level. Not that level D but compensating with better play making and shooting from the get go.
I think he will be great for off the bench. I like murray as the stating point guard
Bend over, and I'll stake my claim.
He's pretty much what Patty Mills should be with better handle, size, passing ability...
I don't like the pick, but I hope he pans out. I wasn't high on Leonard when the Spurs drafted him either. So here is to hoping I am wrong
Think you already made yours earlier. You were on the pick sucks side as I recall.
I am more optimistic after reading his scouting reports. He's 23, but he has upside still. I'm not in the prediction game, but this is far from the worst I've felt about a pick. Still really wanted a big more, though.
Good pick especially at that spot. The NBA is ting the bed by ignoring older players and he may be one who surprises.
His shot is sweet, quick release plus a natural follow through. Solid rotation guy is my bet.
Yeah bigs are a problem, particular with Lapussy now. I think thought White's a great fit with Murray going forward though, decent skills as a secondary ball handler and better yet a knock down shooter with ability to drive on close outs and pass unlike our current starting SG.
Personally wish the Spurs went with a big. If they had to go with a guard, I'm surprised they didn't go with Josh Hart. Hope they don't eventually regret that.
Of course, I'm rooting for White.
This was a deep draft, so there will be plenty of discussion on the pick, but the kid is ready to play. This old moniker, gets old. Everyone thought simmons couldn't develop past a d leaguer cuz of age, amd he was the best player against the warriors. Everyone has potential, only difference is amount of opportunity, which younger people will have more, but doesn't mean much if they don't make much of the opportunity. Kyle Anderson is almost the same exact player. Hasnt developed much, and he really needs a consistent shot to play. He had one area he needed, and a few years of opportunity and hasn't accomplished a lot. He still has more opportunity thoigh, because of age. Time will tell what he does with it.
White has consistently made the most of opportunity and constantly got better when given it. Much like Kawhi coming, i think players who seize opportunity are the real prizes. This kid has that attribute. I really liked Harts defensive variation, and Bell and Rabb would have been nice amd more of a need to me, but they do have Milotov and bertans waiting for their turn too in the rotation.
Guards who can create offense is what they needed most. They definitely got that with two young players still who wont see their prime for 6-7 years, and got those contributors tied down with super cheap contracts. I'm sure everyone would have been happy for their prices If they were free agents tbh.
I like the draft, it addresses the spurs biggest real need, which was dribble penetration and offense creation. Add hanga to the mix, and the spurs definitely got longer and more athletic while also upgrading the offense repertoire.
I was initially upset, but when I think about it, the picks were above average for their range and contribution expectations.
White will be a strong cog in the system.
Just another player, whatever upside the kid has will be squashed out by Pop sitting him when he makes mistakes or running out corpses instead of giving the kid minutes.
After watching the vid of Kadeem Allen shutting him down and watching his weaknesses vid on DraftExpress, I never gave this guy a chance, but I have since warmed to him and here's why:
1. He doesn't rely on elite tools physically. He plays old school fundamental ball and you guys know Duncan was like that too. He should age well, but that's a little far ahead. This dude can just flat out play and he probably won't have the best defender of the other team on him and should benefit from having better players around him.
2. He's a Swiss Army Knife-like guard. He's great insurance for just about any guard that doesn't come back next year and could possibly supplant Murray in the starting lineup if we miss in free agency or Murray has a tough year, however unlikely.
3. He's a two way player. In the modern game the more versatile a player that can play both sides of the ball is a huge commodity and this guy is like a jack of all trades. He's got a little of everything in his repertoire. He can play on ball, off ball on offense or play individual or team defense. He probably won't be a great defender but he can make plays on that side and should be a much better defender than Mills, let's say.
4. He's a high IQ player. He should figure it out. He's found a way to succeed in every level and if history repeats itself he should be a real player in the NBA.
Prediction: I think he'll need help and won't be a star or even All Star but he could be a fringe elite role player as his ceiling and a rotation player as his floor imo. I just doubt he crumbles after all he's been through; that's why you look for guys with character, since you know how they are going to react to obstacles. I guess I should be happy to get him cause PATFO has had more success drafting guards then bigs...
?Don't know him, or watched him in college so I don't have a claim.
I hope he plays well for the Spurs though. I like that he can shoot frankly. Spurs had to get a guard who could shoot besides Forbes. (Mills won't be reupped in all likelihood and Forbes has looked very marginal so far. He needs to improve that shooting % in the NBA). Anyways, I like the pick bc he looks like a solid player but don't know him enough to be blown away or anything. It's kind of meh
Only player in his conference to average 18-4-4 outside of fultz and wade I believe. He's definitely a basketball player.
^^^ in the last 20 years and not just conference but all of D1
18 pts 4 rebs 4 assists 1 blk - This is the criteria
I agree, but I wouldn't mind if we ended up with a Murray/White starting backcourt.
He's a scrub.
I think it will be considered a solid pick about two years down the road.
He could wind up being a solid role player.
Many thanks for your analysis/opinion. I hope you are right. And I hope that Pop will see this year as a re-tooling year and go with younger guys more.
Not as impressive to me bc he's old frankly. His age at the ncaa level does say a lot about his level of experience vs his compe ion etc... so I am not getting blown away by his stats. Again didn't watch him so I don't really know him but he appears solid and a good shooter so I am very satisfied that he fulfills a need.
Don't think he's a total scrub, but I'm skeptical he'll be more than a shorter Fathead (just okay at everything, great at nothing).
If we were going for the Swiss Army knife type guard, I think the Spurs should've went with Hart.
Solid backup PG to Murray it in two years. Will be a good rotation guy who people will complain about because his lack of great defense or athleticism, but he'll offset some of it with his shooting and ability to make players around him better with his passing. Skilled and unselfish team player who fits into the Spurs' culture.
It's just Hart can't run the point so I understand why PATFO may of went this route. Hart will be a better defender but I think White is a better all around player imo
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