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    All 3 of them.

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    I need to, at least, see a twitter account of shady reputation selling smoke about the Spurs pursuing PG13.

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    After the elections, if Trumpr says it, I pay attention, tbh.

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    CGD tbh, why would Indy prefer Love to Aldridge? I think that this needlessly complicates things imo Aldridge > Love so why would Indy want to get the Cavs involved? Why would the Spurs for that matter? LMA might be the best thing that Indy will get for a Paul George rental. I would rather have an all star to build around than just draft picks (Boston). It is a win win for the Spurs and Pacers to do it straight up, that way the Spurs can hang on to Verde and even Fathead if they like.
    On the Celtics tip, Ainge will remain a genius for as long as he has picks, the second he cashes those picks in for a player (s) the genius tab goes away and the reality of just how good a gm he is will start to be known. I think he likes the mystery of the potential of options so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Celtics keep kicking the can down the road for 5 more years.
    i think Indiana would take Love over LMA. LMA can walk next year just like PG. So there's no stability. But Cavs probably don't want that trade. If they give up Love for PG, and PG walks, not only have they lost Love and PG as assets, but they are so far over the cap that they won't be able to pay another star. Plus they don't have draft picks. I think they are trying to keep assets for when LeBron leaves, which means keeping Love and Kyrie.

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    Agree.
    And our hope can be the Flamers have nothing better to offer, right?
    I mean for all his faults Aldridge is 17 and 9 and was advancing in the playoffs as long as Kawhi was holding his hand.
    And he'd do fine in the NBA East. Especially if he gets more touches.

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    i think Indiana would take Love over LMA. LMA can walk next year just like PG. So there's no stability. But Cavs probably don't want that trade. If they give up Love for PG, and PG walks, not only have they lost Love and PG as assets, but they are so far over the cap that they won't be able to pay another star. Plus they don't have draft picks. I think they are trying to keep assets for when LeBron leaves, which means keeping Love and Kyrie.
    But maybe the Pacers prefer to have LA off the books after a year than have more years of Love. And if you say: "well, why don'y they keep PG then?" because alongside Aldrisge the Pacers would be getting some prospects and draft picks.

    Prospects, draft picks and cap space for the 18/19 offseason. That's a pretty damn good rebuilding package.

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    But maybe the Pacers prefer to have LA off the books after a year than have more years of Love. And if you say: "well, why don'y they keep PG then?" because alongside Aldrisge the Pacers would be getting some prospects and draft picks.

    Prospects, draft picks and cap space for the 18/19 offseason. That's a pretty damn good rebuilding package.
    Or, maybe they just want to flip the bird to Magic and his dumpster fire franchise. If PG comes here, he gets a better chance to win, and the highest re-signing figure. He may never go to LA.

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...

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    I wouldn't give up more than Aldridge/future pick for Paul George as a 1 year rental.

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    Nah, I'm not giving up Murray.

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    Nah, I'm not giving up Murray.
    But with Pop's obvious man crush on CP3, and IMO a real chance to take down the Warriors with a CP3, PG13, and KL perimeter defense I think Pop/Buford would do it.

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    But with Pop's obvious man crush on CP3, and IMO a real chance to take down the Warriors with a CP3, PG13, and KL perimeter defense I think Pop/Buford would do it.
    I think you're right... pop would do that..

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    I guarantee this deal would get it done. However I think this could hurt us in the long run while PG could just pack up and leave and no way we can get CP as well.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydyzmpd3

    But ill prefer this one.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mfxxrvx

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    But with Pop's obvious man crush on CP3, and IMO a real chance to take down the Warriors with a CP3, PG13, and KL perimeter defense I think Pop/Buford would do it.
    Only issue would be pg13 would only be a 1 year rental

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    Very interesting. If Paul George were willing to re-sign with the Spurs I think I would be willing to trade Dejounte. Not sure what I would do if it was a 50/50 gamble on a one year rental, though. I think I might still do it.

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    Makes sense that teams would want to include Murray. He's young and full of potential. He's like the only prospect we have that other teams might realistically want.

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    Very interesting. If Paul George were willing to re-sign with the Spurs I think I would be willing to trade Dejounte. Not sure what I would do if it was a 50/50 gamble on a one year rental, though. I think I might still do it.
    PG is disgusted with management flipping the Bird at the players. With his Bird rights and playing with a class organization who knows?

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    I agree. Crazy thought. No freaking way. Trade our one-year rental plus a guy that many believe would now be a late lottery pick for Indy's one-year rental? Smh.

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    Very interesting. If Paul George were willing to re-sign with the Spurs I think I would be willing to trade Dejounte. Not sure what I would do if it was a 50/50 gamble on a one year rental, though. I think I might still do it.
    No way.

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    A crazy thought occurred to me watching the draft. The Spurs drafting 2 seniors. (I wonder the last time that happened in the NBA draft?) White while maybe not as much upside as Hart may be able to contribute sooner (this year). It was rumored that the Spurs and Pacers were close to a deal. What if Murray was the piece that the Spurs were reluctant to throw in? Could it be the Spurs wanted to sit down in front of Chris Paul with the proposition that they would pull the trigger on LMA + Murray for George if Paul commits to the Spurs? If that could somehow come to pass I could then see DG on his way to Philadelphia who really need a 3&D 2 guard with veteran experience on that team. With their plethora of bigs and the obvious ties to the Spurs the path to a serviceable 4 could be available as well. One can dream...
    Got the same thought. Could be that they just thought White was best available, but it could be connected to Green or Murray too. Incidentally, White projects as near ideal PG next to two ball dominant wings.

    Think Pacers would do it before Spurs. Pacers ownership is opposed to re-building, so they'll probably attempt to remain on treadmill of mediocrity. Combined that with Aldridge getting out of spotlight, being able to revert to Trail Blazers role and McMillan connection and he might re-sign. Murray would give them potential PG of the future and asset in case Aldridge bolts.

    Risk for Spurs would by monumental considering George's determination to get to Lakers, ego and relative youth. I don't think he could handle playing Pippen to Leonard's Jordan or Spurs' strict culture.

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    Got the same thought. Could be that they just thought White was best available, but it could be connected to Green or Murray too. Incidentally, White projects as near ideal PG next to two ball dominant wings.

    Think Pacers would do it before Spurs. Pacers ownership is opposed to re-building, so they'll probably attempt to remain on treadmill of mediocrity. Combined that with Aldridge getting out of spotlight, being able to revert to Trail Blazers role and McMillan connection and he might re-sign. Murray would give them potential PG of the future and asset in case Aldridge bolts.

    Risk for Spurs would by monumental considering George's determination to get to Lakers, ego and relative youth. I don't think he could handle playing Pippen to Leonard's Jordan or Spurs' strict culture.
    I think it was connected to Mills and Green, but more in the fact that they need to eventually replace them + Simmons (or pay up), and replace Manu. Think we're reading too much into the fact that he and Murray are both PG.

    If Murray develops into a starter and White a sixth man, or vice versa, the Spurs did well.

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    Boston has the Lakers pick next year if it's 2-5, otherwise Philly gets it.

    We could be entering new waters here. I wonder if the C's would send the Lakers a later first round pick, in exchange for a tank?

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    I think it was connected to Mills and Green, but more in the fact that they need to eventually replace them + Simmons (or pay up), and replace Manu. Think we're reading too much into the fact that he and Murray are both PG.

    If Murray develops into a starter and White a sixth man, or vice versa, the Spurs did well.
    Could be, but I look at it like Parker probably isn't going anywhere for at least 2 seasons and will be in the rotation. Despite this, Murray and White, they probably pursue Paul and Hill and if they sign one, will have 4 PG's or combo guards who are or project as rotation guards, in addition to Green. If this plays out, something's (probably) got to give.

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    Could be, but I look at it like Parker probably isn't going anywhere for at least 2 seasons and will be in the rotation. Despite this, Murray and White, they probably pursue Paul and Hill and if they sign one, will have 4 PG's or combo guards who are or project as rotation guards, in addition to Green. If this plays out, something's (probably) got to give.
    I do believe Danny is gone. Spurs just don't do rumors. I considered him a smokescreen earlier, and misdirection but having drafted two wings, one of which is a guard, (on top of bringing Hanga), I think he's indeed been involved in a deal.

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    Could be, but I look at it like Parker probably isn't going anywhere for at least 2 seasons and will be in the rotation. Despite this, Murray and White, they probably pursue Paul and Hill and if they sign one, will have 4 PG's or combo guards who are or project as rotation guards, in addition to Green. If this plays out, something's (probably) got to give.


    Dude has 1 year remaining on his contract and my hope is that he doesn't get to be here for it, much less 2.

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