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    Todays if you cant beat them join them NBA
    Sad but true

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    not making excuses for lma but i too think he has not been utilized spectacularly.

    tony (and pop) have been in the way of kawhi and la establishing a two man game.

    tony made shots in these past playoffs but... the left is la with tony and the right is la without tony:


    and la had 28 & 8 in game 1:


    kawhi's injury rendered everything moot and (obviously) broke the spurs' back.

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    there isnt alot of interest right now with more superior options available but just wait for the free agent market to dry up and when teams miss out and look at what's left and start talking themselves into the positives of LMA. When your desperate it's easier to spin things differently.

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    Sources: Brooklyn plans to decline team option on guard K.J. McDaniels, making him an unrestricted free agent.



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    Boston has assets and can upgrade the four. They'd do it for cheap though and not give much.

    Charlotte might be interested and could use an upgrade at four. I mean they traded for Dwight. They don't have the assets though. Maybe a first protected with a MKG or maybe Kaminsky or Zeller combo.

    Denver has assets but we'd have to wait to see if they can get Griffin, Millsap, or Love first. They are rumored to be shopping Mudiay, Faried, and Chandler. Maybe throw in a Gary Harris or Malik Beasley as well. I don't think they would throw a first in. But might be the best haul.

    Detroit Pistons could be another but they'd likely want to add Jackson's contract to it. No firsts. Not a great haul.

    Miami has few assets so it wouldn't be a great haul. Maybe Winslow and another player.

    Minnesota unlikely and wouldn't give much.

    New York not giving up Porzingis.

    Orlando might but it doesn't make too much sense. Maybe Gordon and Hezonja.

    Phoenix has assets but do they really want to give some up for Aldridge. Makes some sense on our side but does Aldridge still want to go there.

    Portland.

    Toronto has assets and a need at the four if Ibaka leaves. Probably want Demarre Carrol attached with a young prospect.

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    not making excuses for lma but

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    those stats are objective.

    i'm fine with cutting him loose. but tp should go first. cp3 would raise la's play.

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    not making excuses for lma but i too think he has not been utilized spectacularly.

    tony (and pop) have been in the way of kawhi and la establishing a two man game.

    tony made shots in these past playoffs but... the left is la with tony and the right is la without tony:


    and la had 28 & 8 in game 1:


    kawhi's injury rendered everything moot and (obviously) broke the spurs' back.
    This graphic is dated. He averaged 19 after Tony went out. Only a 8 game sample and in 2 of those 8 games he scored EIGHT freakin points.... one of those times being in a close out game.

    Tony has nothing to do with LMA's inability to back down defenders like James Harden and Ryan Anderson.

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    Can he consistently post anyone up? I can't remember a time where he scored on consecutive possessions posting up. It happens so rarely.

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    This graphic is dated. He averaged 19 after Tony went out.
    the graphic is not dated, it is la after tony was out and before kawhi was out.

    like i said:
    kawhi's injury rendered everything moot and (obviously) broke the spurs' back.

    Tony has nothing to do with LMA's inability to back down defenders like James Harden and Ryan Anderson.
    i do not disagree with that.

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    Livio and Tim count against the cap. That's why stretching Parker is a tricky proposition.
    Duncan and Livio both count against the cap. Also have to add the 1st round pick unless traded, Milutinov's cap hold unless they're not signing him again and the roster charges for empty roster spots.
    ugh.

    Why is George Hill unreliable? If you are talking about health, I think Livingston would be a higher risk. Don't get me wrong, I like Livingston a lot (and AI, too). It would be pathetic, though, to see the Spurs make a run at a GS guy and get snubbed.
    he just isn't reliable on the court.

    not a great passer, not a great shooter. he's good at disappearing.

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    Man news is so slow right now. I expect things to vamp up in a few days. Trade deadline and Draft day is so exciting that after it's like a crash. Left wanting more and nothing.

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    Man news is so slow right now. I expect things to vamp up in a few days. Trade deadline and Draft day is so exciting that after it's like a crash. Left wanting more and nothing.
    Yeah, repeatedly reported stuff ... crappy logos , blah blah blah.

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    Question, if it was between keeping Simmons at 10 mil or signing Livingston for the same amount, what would you do?
    I like both but JSimms is already a Spur, is younger (no bad injuries either) and I think unless the money is exorbitant he will be back. Frankly, much as ppl think I don't like Jsimms, I like him enough that I'd like him back if the contract is reasonable.

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    Yeah, repeatedly reported stuff ... crappy logos , blah blah blah.
    lol how long can you spin the same story it's ridiculous. At least we got this award show tomorrow. I expect Thursday the rumor mill should fire up again for free agency, then Friday night at midnight we got the meetings. I think I'm just gonna watch that Big3 tomorrow too. But Tuesday and Wednesday might get boring.

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    I like both but JSimms is already a Spur, is younger (no bad injuries either) and I think unless the money is exorbitant he will be back. Frankly, much as ppl think I don't like Jsimms, I like him enough that I'd like him back if the contract is reasonable.
    yeah 12 per sounds about right. so 8 the first two years and 14 the next two years. I think it's more Green or Simmons who would you choose than, Livingston or Simmons. And Simmons hands down for the same price would be the choice. I don't think it's close.

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    Question, if it was between keeping Simmons at 10 mil or signing Livingston for the same amount, what would you do?
    tough question

    depends on the amount of years.

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    give me livingston + simmons instead of simmons or livgingston + parker, EASILY.

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    Source: Euroleague star Chris Singleton had sit down interviews with two NBA teams. He's poised to opt-out of his deal with Panathinaikos.
    Isn't this a guy that fans here at Spurstalk wanted in that draft over Kawhi? Didn't some people here say he'd be a better player?

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    ^You would be correct.

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    ^You would be correct.
    I thought it was him. I think people mentioned something about him being a better defender too. lol.

    I don't even remember seeing this guy play much in the NBA. Did he play much? I don't recall seeing him when the Spurs played against whatever team he was on (was it Washington?).

    How is he now, though? Is he any good? Anyone know if he's improved much since he was last in the NBA?

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    Singleton looks very good on paper coming out of college. I never weighed in on either side but I don't think that is unreasonable. He had more steals and blocks than Kawhi in college too so that's probably why they were high on his defense.

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    Yeah, too be fair he had the tools. He just couldn't shoot at the time and his ball IQ was lacking. Seems like Europe did him good.

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    I think Boston is more than happy to trade Bradly, Crowder, jerebko, and a few picks to match salaries for George. Even with that they have more than enough caproom to sign Hayward this year.

    Thomas, incredibly, only makes 6M next year, and should they opt to keep him next summer they'll have full Bird rights to do so. Oh, and they have a ton of future picks left to round out the roster in future years.

    For BOS it's all about Angie. When does he turn from asset hoarder to legit team builder?
    Yeah, if they do Hayward, George, Horford, reup Thomas then they're in total cap for the forseeable future and have to remake the role players. Plus they're not guaranteed to even have one top 5 player much less a top 10. They're welcome to try.

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    Isn't this a guy that fans here at Spurstalk wanted in that draft over Kawhi? Didn't some people here say he'd be a better player?
    Along with Jordan Hamilton.

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