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They had no problem getting a meeting with Paul.
- I get that teams like Nuggets can't even get a meeting with star (even in declining value) like Love, but him and Jokic would be untenable together defensively.
- Thompson-Faried wouldn't play together; Faried would back Thompson up. They'd either have to attempt to talk James into playing PF or at least splitting it with George or start Frye (who'd primarily guard C's), to serve as placeholder floor spacer.
- Best Spurs could do, is trading Green to separate team for 1st, then adding that to Aldridge and Murray, for George and something like Anigbogu or 2nd. I'd do it if there was a decent or better chance of his re-signing, but I just can't envision him being willing to play Pippen to Leonard's Jordan or playing in San Antonio.
They had no problem getting a meeting with Paul.
1.Nugs biggest issue is team defense. Individual defense is less of an issue. Also, Jokic's defense isn't even that bad.
2.That's obvious enough, but I've heard James is uninterested in playing the 4. I'd imagine George doesn't want to either.
3.Spurs aren't getting George. PERIOD.
- Meant historically . . . Nuggets actually had a meeting with Wade last year too, even though it was clearly a negotiating ploy on his part. Still, no star is signing with them.
- Team defense only goes so far. Jokic, though longer than Love, is also slow footed and can't jump, which means neither can guard in space/PnR or protect the rim. No amount of basketball IQ or work ethic is changing that or covering it up.
- James are George are both opposed to primarily playing PF, but it was one thing to refuse to a few years ago when James was younger, the league played bigger and he played with role playing wings. He's not dumb: he knows their best lineup would be Irving-Smith-George-James-Thompson and whether starting or not, they'd play plenty together, close and be starting lineup vs Warriors.
- Never said Spurs were trading for George; said that was best they could do . . . according to Stein and Haynes though, they aggressively pursued it on draft night.
He played in Indiana. Is that better than SA? Doubt it.
I've heard a lot RECENTLY about LeBron not wanting to play PF. Maybe he'd change if he got talent along the lines of George though.
And, yeah, I'm sure 29 teams called the Pacers on draft night.
He's determined to get to L.A. though. It's one thing to fall in line behind arguably the 2nd best player ever and someone a generation ahead, in James, but Leonard? Even though we all know he's in a different class, George is probably delusional enough to think or pretend he's better.
That is petty and should be irrelevant, but reality is most players want to win . . . but only on their terms.
Tbh, I think PG has a little player rivalry with Kawhi. There's been some talk and he made an excuse once after getting walloped by Kawhi. I think he could be one of those players Windhorst was referring to as thinking Kawhi is overrated.
Maybe some of those players thought that, but surely after these playoffs, some of them had to have changed their minds on Kawhi, wouldn't they? I mean, surely Kawhi's performance in these playoffs has to force a lot of these guys to change their opinion of him.
if PG is that short sighted, me first and unconcerned about winning then I wouldn't want him however I am not sure that the hypothesis stated is correct. To me Indiana is trying to put up enough smoke that teams up their offers but considering the deal the Bulls got, and the fact that PG is a 1 year rental I am not sure how much sweeter the offers are going to get. The Cavs are desperate to be on the front page, the Celtics would rather stay cozy in potential land instead of dealing in reality and the Lakers want to hold on to as many assets as possible. That still gives the Spurs a decent chance to land PG, because I am not sure any of the other three would give up anything more desirable than LMA, or even if they would I don't know if they have anything more desirable to give up even if they wanted to.
I also forgot that Nate McMillan is the coach there and also Kevin Pritchard is their new GM? If so, maybe we do have a slight chance of making something happen with them? Those two know LaMarcus and I think they know better than anyone how to get the best out of him. He might not also mind going there because those are two guys he's familiar with.
Hopefully, Paul George is not the some people here are thinking/saying he is, and that he doesn't have any issue with playing alongside Kawhi.
I bet almost that many called inquiring about LMA.
Kyrie, PG, and LeBron. Throw in Danny and Dedmon? Yeah, I think LeBron would adjust to that.
In a small-ball league, I think it is inevitable that Lebron moves to a position designated "PF" as his speed and quo knees decline with age. When he starts making that transition is anybody's guess. But if the opportunity to play with another star/elite PF came along, I think he might make that move now. On offense, he would kill most of the league's PFs. And on defense, as the league has moved toward "stretch 4s", he wouldn't have to defend any guys like prime Z-Bo going forward.I bet almost that many called inquiring about LMA.
Kyrie, PG, and LeBron. Throw in Danny and Dedmon? Yeah, I think LeBron would adjust to that.
Heck, the guy is a beast who never has suffered a major injury. He may play until he is 50. We might see him play the 5 before his career is over.
Some of those guys may say they think Kawhi is overrated, but that would be their egos talking - not what they know in their hearts.
gonna keep bumping this thread because it is the trade rumor no one is talking about , all I hear is LeCavs three way or now John Wall pushing for...however PG13 to the Spurs is the one move that would prove the biggest threat to the Dubs. The talking heads say they want a credible thread to the Dubs but what they mean is they want one of their sacred cows to be a credible threat to the Dubs, which is why they keep beating the Cavs, Lakers, and Celtics drums. If all it would cost is LMA, the Dubs would want no part of a healthy Spurs teams minus Aldridge but plus PG13.
No one's talking about Green and Parker for Lebron either.
Indiana already said no to Love-PG13. Why in the world would they want anything from LMA, when Love is the superior player?
Expiring
Yeah, I wasn't saying that they would/could actually put that together. But the offensive firepower of LeBron/Kyrie/PG is pretty daunting. Throw in an interior defender who can clean up the glass from time to time, and a defensive 3P specialist? I think LeBron would nominally play the 4 to put that together.
I do understand him not wanting to play as a traditional PF, though. He's big, and damned strong. But all the pushing and wrestling that goes on down there? It takes a toll on the knees, and it would take a big chunk of spring out of his step, especially late in games. But with all the small ball being played these days, it gets harder and harder to pigeon hole guys into traditional positions. Personally, I think they need to invent some new position names and see if they fly.
Sort of.
LMA has a player option for 18-19.
Knowing his gotry the Cavs may not want him for two years as he may insist on taking it.
expiring and LMA is a superior player than Love imo.
Chin as crazy as it sounds IF the Cavs can't pull off any roster moves to improve the team, LBJ will be in supreme wining mode and then I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't force the Cavs to trade him instead. In that scenario SA would be the #1 choice I could see LBJ agreeing to. If you can't bring the club that can beat the Dubs to LBJ, send LBJ to the club that can beat the Dubs.
^^ love the sound of that. That would be sweet if LeBron convinced the Cavs that he is leaving after next season so better to trade him now. Cavs won't do it tho no matter what. Even if it means his bailing for free in 2018.
Got to believe the Banana Boat krew has talked among themselves and has a plan.
It seems like summer of 2018 is when the real chit will come down. But ya, all the moreso why one year in San Antone for PG makes the most sense. Indy is gonna go with the best offer tho.
Wonder if this Hayward/George business can be replicated with Paul/George (). Spurs could dump Parker to ATL with a first, sign CP3 with cap space, then trade Green and LMA for PG. The Pacers do an extend-and-trade, so the Spurs would get him for four years.
Paul, Murray, White
Leonard, Simmons, Forbes
George, Anderson, Hanga
Lee, Bertans, Blossomgame
Gasol, Milutinov, ring-chaser
Let 'er rip. I'd love to see what you can come up with!
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