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    I was interested in Singleton that year because I thought he could be in a range of a pick that George Hill could get in a trade, like late teens or early 20s. So on draft night i was hoping to get him. I never bothered looking at Kawhi that draft because he was expected to go in the lottery, I thought he'd go to Washington or Sacramento like so many mocks had him so I only paid attention to players in a range I thought gettable.

    Singleton had 2 big problems.

    First, for being a good defensive sf, he also gained 20 pounds after his final college season. That extra bulk slowed him down, he just wasn't quick enough to defend on the perimeter.

    Second, he turned out to be a rather dim guy. During his rookie year in Washington, there was a big Mega Millions and he spent 10k on tickets. His take him that year was easily under a million but he did it justifying it by saying he would have just spent it in the club anyway.

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    Yeah, if they do Hayward, George, Horford, reup Thomas then they're in total cap for the forseeable future and have to remake the role players. Plus they're not guaranteed to even have one top 5 player much less a top 10. They're welcome to try.
    That's a solid team, and probably worth using your cap on for the next 3 years (when Hartford comes off). Plus they still have an army of picks over the next three years.

    I'd be happy if that were the Spurs situation, tbh.

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    not making excuses for lma but i too think he has not been utilized spectacularly.

    tony (and pop) have been in the way of kawhi and la establishing a two man game.

    tony made shots in these past playoffs but... the left is la with tony and the right is la without tony:


    and la had 28 & 8 in game 1:


    kawhi's injury rendered everything moot and (obviously) broke the spurs' back.
    Pretty sure that LA's stats with Tony have been far better than LA's stats without Tony throughout his time in SA Can't be bothered to look up the numbers right now, but I know they've been posted around here before. Aldridge's numbers are noticeably better while playing with Parker.

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    I was interested in Singleton that year because I thought he could be in a range of a pick that George Hill could get in a trade, like late teens or early 20s. So on draft night i was hoping to get him. I never bothered looking at Kawhi that draft because he was expected to go in the lottery, I thought he'd go to Washington or Sacramento like so many mocks had him so I only paid attention to players in a range I thought gettable.

    Singleton had 2 big problems.

    First, for being a good defensive sf, he also gained 20 pounds after his final college season. That extra bulk slowed him down, he just wasn't quick enough to defend on the perimeter.

    Second, he turned out to be a rather dim guy. During his rookie year in Washington, there was a big Mega Millions and he spent 10k on tickets. His take him that year was easily under a million but he did it justifying it by saying he would have just spent it in the club anyway.
    Got one of those guys already who we are trying to trade.

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    Would anyone do Faried for LMA (opens up some cap room since Faried makes less) if it meant getting Jamal Murray?

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    I'd do it.

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    LOL... a HoopsHype offseason guide to Jonathan Simmons. Spurs should either dump him, or pay him big bucks.

    http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/25/free...athon-simmons/



    One a more serious note - they have a pretty good summary of all the recent transactions. I had been looking for them in one place, and couldn't seem to find it.

    http://hoopshype.com/2016/07/03/nba-...016-17-season/

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    Would anyone do Faried for LMA (opens up some cap room since Faried makes less) if it meant getting Jamal Murray?
    In a heartbeat but zero chance Denver's Trading Murray .

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    Would anyone do Faried for LMA (opens up some cap room since Faried makes less) if it meant getting Jamal Murray?
    No way Denver gets rid of Murray.

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    In a heartbeat but zero chance Denver's Trading Murray .
    He's tradeable, but not for Aldridge. Straight up, could work. Denver needs upgrade, Spurs need salary relief.

    I have no clue, how Faried plays against GSW. How can he guard ? Iggy/Green ?
    Last edited by Mal; 06-26-2017 at 11:44 AM.

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    Murray's is probably valued as their second best player by the Nuggets after Jokic. Tradeable but expensive, especially on a rookie contract..

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    Would anyone do Faried for LMA (opens up some cap room since Faried makes less) if it meant getting Jamal Murray?
    Spurs will probably wait out FA first before trading LA for salary. Targeting Ibaka and Blake. If they can get Ibaka to commit, I'd love to see LA traded for Wilson Chandler and a pick. I'd prefer Wilson over Faried, as he's more versatile on both ends of the floor and he'll be able to stay on the floor against the Warriors.

    A Ibaka, Chandler, Kawhi, Simmons or Green, Murray line up would be better than any lineup Spurs could have put on the floor last year vs. Golden State.

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    Murray's is probably valued as their second best player by the Nuggets after Jokic. Tradeable but expensive, especially on a rookie contract..
    Gary Harris looks like their future starting SG.

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    Murray is a combo guard.

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    Gary Harris looks like their future starting SG.
    Denver isn't giving up Harris or Murray as part of a deal for 1 yr rental of LA.

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    Denver isn't giving up Harris or Murray as part of a deal for 1 yr rental of LA.
    Never said they were. But Murray is tradeable.

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    Never said they were. But Murray is tradeable.
    I don't think they'd include Jamal in any deal for LA, unless they were dumb.

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    I don't think they'd include Jamal in any deal for LA, unless they were dumb.
    Apperantly he was in deals for Kevin Love, Love is 3 years younger, 1 year longer deal, but more injuries in the past, more mileage in last seasons.

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    No way Denver gets rid of Murray.
    I wish! But I'd offer to trade LMA and next year's #1 for Faried and Murry. I'd probably be happy with LMA and the pick for Faried and Chandler.

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    LOL... a HoopsHype offseason guide to Jonathan Simmons. Spurs should either dump him, or pay him big bucks.

    http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/25/free...athon-simmons/



    One a more serious note - they have a pretty good summary of all the recent transactions. I had been looking for them in one place, and couldn't seem to find it.

    http://hoopshype.com/2016/07/03/nba-...016-17-season/
    Thanks for sharing... I am hopeful that JSimms weaknesses keep him from a superlative contract that takes him out of the Spurs. The past couple of seasons, many swingmen who can defend have been overpaid relative to production and in retrospect many have ended up in albatrosses. (Spurs got lucky with Danny that he did not end up in one such albatross). I think if he's in a reasonable contract he will be back, but Spurs know his true worth... if some team wants to pay him like a star he's unfortunately going to be gone.. BUT good for him. I said while he was in a shooting slump through the season that he still had time to get that contract if he showed up in the playoffs and that he did. I hope Spurs can reach a medium ground with him.

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    good landing spot for Mills...

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    Would anyone do Faried for LMA (opens up some cap room since Faried makes less) if it meant getting Jamal Murray?
    Like others have said, Denver isn't trading Murray but, I do think they are a potential landing spot if we and they strike out early in our FA goals. I could see LMA going there for a package including Hermangomez, Beasley and either Chandler or a S&T Galinari.

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    I was interested in Singleton that year because I thought he could be in a range of a pick that George Hill could get in a trade, like late teens or early 20s. So on draft night i was hoping to get him. I never bothered looking at Kawhi that draft because he was expected to go in the lottery, I thought he'd go to Washington or Sacramento like so many mocks had him so I only paid attention to players in a range I thought gettable.

    Singleton had 2 big problems.

    First, for being a good defensive sf, he also gained 20 pounds after his final college season. That extra bulk slowed him down, he just wasn't quick enough to defend on the perimeter.

    Second, he turned out to be a rather dim guy. During his rookie year in Washington, there was a big Mega Millions and he spent 10k on tickets. His take him that year was easily under a million but he did it justifying it by saying he would have just spent it in the club anyway.
    He has had a great year in Greece. Played the 5, but defended all 5 positions. His 3 point shooting improved to 46%. He led his team in scoring, rebounding, steals and blocks. Won Euro Player of the Month for March. Who knows, maybe being exiled to Greece has helped him to "Get over himself".

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    Like others have said, Denver isn't trading Murray but, I do think they are a potential landing spot if we and they strike out early in our FA goals. I could see LMA going there for a package including Hermangomez, Beasley and either Chandler or a S&T Galinari.
    If We got either of those alternative packages, I would be elated. Faried is really the guy I would aim for, as he and LMA would be an odd fit, anyway.

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