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    Jamaycheal Green. I Just vomited.

    If Millsap can be convinced to play for SA at a reduced price 21-22, I'd swap him for Aldridge but I am not giving a 32 year old a 4 year 25 per contract.

    I don't doubt that Ibaka is in his 30s...As a guy who is supposedly in his 20..he sure has lost a decent amount of athletic prowes in just a short amount of time but he's likely the cheaper option but he'd clearly a less skilled and worst defensive player than Millsap.

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    Holy . Did some guy on the last page really say he would take Anderson over Millsap? Fuuuuuck.

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    Holy . Did some guy on the last page really say he would take Anderson over Millsap? Fuuuuuck.
    Sagirl?

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    Ibaka is the opposite of a ball mover though. He jacks and jacks.

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    Iggy is so old. I mean, he was lite up by Lebron and Kawhi. Why exactly do we want him?

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    He'd be the best backup Kawhi ever had...

    . That's sad.

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    Ibaka is the opposite of a ball mover though. He jacks and jacks.
    I don't think Spurs can be that picky. What are the options? I mean really.

    Milsap for 30+ mil.

    Ibaka for 20 mil.

    Or maybe a platoon of bigs featuring two of Ezeli ( will POR decline their option to make him a FA?), Terrence Jones, Pat Patterson, Willie Reed, Amir Johnson, Jerekbo, Udoh, Nene?

    Or maybe SA can get CP3 to commit, dump LA to PHX for Chriss, Dump Green for a pick, then take on Ezeli & Harkless salary for POR 1st.

    So SA wld have added Chriss, Ezeli, Harkless ( tweener) to front court of Pau, Bertans and pick up 2 1sts for next yr.
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    I'm not for paying a PF more money than LMA's already getting paid. It makes more sense to try one last year (with an upgraded back court) to get LMA to play the way he's capable of.

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    I'm not for paying a PF more money than LMA's already getting paid. It makes more sense to try one last year (with an upgraded back court) to get LMA to play the way he's capable of.
    Hes gone

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    As long as they don't waste money on Ibaka who's defense is rapidly fallen off an doesn't rebound for crap I'm good.

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    Olynyk would be a nice addition. Much needed versatility in the offense. Plus we would have someone willing to break Durant arm.

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    I'm not for paying a PF more money than LMA's already getting paid. It makes more sense to try one last year (with an upgraded back court) to get LMA to play the way he's capable of.
    He's gone.

    Doubt Leonard is too happy with him. Doubt anyone is really happy with him.

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    Olynyk would be a nice addition. Much needed versatility in the offense. Plus we would have someone willing to break Durant arm.
    disgusting.

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    I don't think Spurs can be that picky. What are the options? I mean really.

    Milsap for 30+ mil.

    Ibaka for 20 mil.

    Or maybe a platoon of bigs featuring two of Ezeli ( will POR decline their option to make him a FA?), Terrence Jones, Pat Patterson, Willie Reed, Amir Johnson, Jerekbo, Udoh, Nene?

    Or maybe SA can get CP3 to commit, dump LA to PHX for Chriss, Dump Green for a pick, then take on Ezeli & Harkless salary for POR 1st.

    So SA wld have added Chriss, Ezeli, Harkless ( tweener) to front court of Pau, Bertans and pick up 2 1sts for next yr.
    If Bertans can improve defensively as a 4 and the spurs opt to sign Ibaka and play him as a 5...sounds like unleashing a new version of Leonard and opening spaces for Murray.

    Defense would probably be so bad though.

    With Lee out and Pau posdibly out, I have no doubt in my mind Bertnd is playing at least 15mpg next year.

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    If LMA were actually gone, he'd be gone. The Spurs aren't getting a better deal by waiting. They're waiting because it might just make more sense to keep him than to deal him. I know everyone wants him gone -- and even he may want to be gone -- but it doesn't make basketball sense yet. Right now, the clearest path to improvement is for LMA to play better. Thinking that Millsap getting 50 percent more money is a viable strategy is something I just can't go along with. Dude only makes sense at a discount.

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    I'm not for paying a PF more money than LMA's already getting paid. It makes more sense to try one last year (with an upgraded back court) to get LMA to play the way he's capable of.
    Guy is gone whether it's this off-season or at the trade deadline. Don't kid yourself.

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    Guy is gone whether it's this off-season or at the trade deadline. Don't kid yourself.
    Those are two very different conversations. If he's gone at the deadline, he's here next week, and the team isn't getting a PF to replace him.

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    If LMA were actually gone, he'd be gone. The Spurs aren't getting a better deal by waiting. They're waiting because it might just make more sense to keep him than to deal him. I know everyone wants him gone -- and even he may want to be gone -- but it doesn't make basketball sense yet.
    Yeah, that's bull . The Spurs are doing what's best for the team. That includes moving Aldridge because it makes even less basketball sense to waste a year playing a guy who has checked out.

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    Those are two very different conversations. If he's gone at the deadline, he's here next week, and the team isn't getting a PF to replace him.
    They're not wasting a whole year on him again. It makes no sense.

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    I don't think Spurs can be that picky. What are the options? I mean really.

    Milsap for 30+ mil.

    Ibaka for 20 mil.

    Or maybe a platoon of bigs featuring two of Ezeli ( will POR decline their option to make him a FA?), Terrence Jones, Pat Patterson, Willie Reed, Amir Johnson, Jerekbo, Udoh, Nene?

    Or maybe SA can get CP3 to commit, dump LA to PHX for Chriss, Dump Green for a pick, then take on Ezeli & Harkless salary for POR 1st.

    So SA wld have added Chriss, Ezeli, Harkless ( tweener) to front court of Pau, Bertans and pick up 2 1sts for next yr.
    Ezeli will likely never play again from what I vaguely remember.

    If it's Millsap at 30 or ibaka at 20, I think Milsap is worth the difference. Does it kill a Paul chance? Probably.

    I just don't think Ibaka is that good anymore. I also doubt 20 is enough.

    The alternatives are bad, no doubt.

    I also am pessimistic on an LMA trade that could get Chriss, not that he's any good anyway. I just figure teams know the Spurs are up against it and are trying to bleed them. Maybe we can get Brandon Knight.

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    If LMA were actually gone, he'd be gone. The Spurs aren't getting a better deal by waiting. They're waiting because it might just make more sense to keep him than to deal him. I know everyone wants him gone -- and even he may want to be gone -- but it doesn't make basketball sense yet. Right now, the clearest path to improvement is for LMA to play better. Thinking that Millsap getting 50 percent more money is a viable strategy is something I just can't go along with. Dude only makes sense at a discount.
    This is silly. With possible sign and trades once free agency opens up it would be madness to do some trade now. Things can definitely change between now and then. Its pretty much the opposite of what you say here: There's no incentive NOT to wait.

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    Yeah, that's bull . The Spurs are doing what's best for the team. That includes moving Aldridge because it makes even less basketball sense to waste a year playing a guy who has checked out.
    First, we don't know the extent to which he's "checked out". All we have is a report that he's selling his house. Second, LMA was apparently "checked out" last summer, and the Spurs didn't trade him. You can call what you want, but the team might feel like pounding that rock one last time and then starting over clean next summer is better than playing even more money for declining guys now.

    They're not wasting a whole year on him again. It makes no sense.
    Even if they move him in November, that takes them out of the running for another big this summer. Again, it's a different conversation.

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    If LMA were actually gone, he'd be gone. The Spurs aren't getting a better deal by waiting. They're waiting because it might just make more sense to keep him than to deal him. I know everyone wants him gone -- and even he may want to be gone -- but it doesn't make basketball sense yet. Right now, the clearest path to improvement is for LMA to play better. Thinking that Millsap getting 50 percent more money is a viable strategy is something I just can't go along with. Dude only makes sense at a discount.

    Spurs swung for the fence going for a lottery pick...didn't work out. But that doesn't mean a good deal can't be made..

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    It's quite possible as some have already mentioned on here that they already may have some sort of trade lined up with Aldridge/Green involved but just need verbal commitment from the FA they will be targeting before they make the move.

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