Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[objective]

It occurred to me that a reason LMA hasn't been traded yet could be that they are waiting for July 1st so their cash considerations amount resets to 3.6 million, and that would cover a good amount of his 15% trade kicker

Also, if he was traded in June, he would still be owed a trade kicker on 16-17, but in July that year it's officially off the books

[rastaspur]

They will need a replacement for when SA eats Knights deal in the LMA trade.

I hope that doesn't happen.

[rastaspur]

Also, if he was traded in June, he would still be owed a trade kicker on 16-17, but in July that year it's officially off the books

. Solid info. Thanks.

[cjw]

I think I would rather have Green at 10 million than Iggy at 17.

Yes, but it also means the Warriors losing Iggy. That reduces the difference.

[Chinook]

Yes, but it also means the Warriors losing Iggy. That reduces the difference.

But not really. They'll replace Iggy just fine with someone else throwing themselves at the team. They made McGee look like a good player. They'd do the same with Tyreke or whomever signs up.

[Vic Petro]

Aldridge is definitely gone and Green is likely gone too. Parker will never be cut or traded. I'd put CP3 chances <5%. They're signing George Hill. The rest goes to bigs.

[picnroll]

New CBA I believe allows the player to waive the trade kicker so Spurs can ask him to do that in consideration of moving him if they want to try to play hardball.

[rastaspur]

Wonder how much it takes dollar wise to get iggy to jump ship. I am not advocating for the spurs to do it but would like to see another team do it.

17 to 20 million a year is my guess.

[Chinook]

New CBA I believe allows the player to waive the trade kicker so Spurs can ask him to do that in consideration of moving him if they want to try to play hardball.

Haven't heard anything about that. Current rule is that it can be waived to match salaries. If that's still true, it's not something the team or LMA can actually control.

[picnroll]

That's what I heard on a Dunc'd on podcast. New change. They were discussing it in relation to Melo's situation I believe.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
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Oklahoma City is exercising its $1.5M team option on Jerami Grant, league sources tell @TheVertical.

[Chinook]

Used to really like Grant. Think OKC hurt him.

[picnroll]

Haven't heard anything about that. Current rule is that it can be waived to match salaries. If that's still true, it's not something the team or LMA can actually control.

Here's an article mentioning Melo's ability to waive the trade kicker.

http://fansided.com/2017/02/15/nba-t...rmelo-anthony/

[rastaspur]

Grant has an interesting range of skills. Crazy athlete. If he fine tuned his shot he could really turn into a steady and solid 3 point shooter. I would love for the spurs to have him.

He would be what livio was supposed to be with a workable 3 point shot.

[tholdren]

Used to really like Grant. Think OKC hurt him.

Bust. Worse than chris quinn tbh

[rastaspur]

Bust. Worse than chris quinn tbh

That's a stretch, bro.

[GSH]

Oklahoma City is exercising its $1.5M team option on Jerami Grant, league sources tell @TheVertical.

Day in and day out, Ace brings the goods. Reminds me a lot of someone else you used to used to post here, and made it so I didn't even have to go out looking for Spurs info. Coincidence?

Either way, thanks for all the good updates.

New CBA I believe allows the player to waive the trade kicker so Spurs can ask him to do that in consideration of moving him if they want to try to play hardball.

Also good info. I hadn't heard anything about that.

[objective]

My memory is that the new rules have it so the kicker can only be waived under certain conditions, like if there receiving team doesn't have enough room because of being hard capped and that preventing a deal like the Clippers in a possible melo trade last year.

I don't think it can be waived at will, and I believe that's what the Dunc'd On Podcast had

I could be wrong

[Ice009]

Klaynus would be a good fit. PATFO even wanted him over Kawhi in the 2011 draft.

I don't recall hearing this? Has anyone else?

What you said is wrong. You said he'd be gone already by now if he was going to be traded. Did you not?

He's gone. Spurs will trade him for salary if it comes down to it. He's no part of their future.

What happens if they have to trade for salary and the only player/s they can get back are ones of bad contracts that don't expire for another 2-3 years? I would not do that. I'd rather keep Aldridge for another year and then clear his space of the books. If they trade for salary, they can't take on anyone that is average and have him locked in for 2, 3 or even 4 years.

Teams can't even trade guys right now can they? Not until FA begins?

Anyone know if verbal agreements can be reached right now on trades, or not until July 1st? I know a lot of deals are done between July 1st and the date you can sign players (July 7th?), but no actual signings can take place until July 7th, right?

btw, has anyone seen DeMarcus Cousins lately? I saw a picture of him yesterday and it looks like he's lost a lot of weight. Looks like he's been working really hard (unlike that piece of Aldridge) at the behest of Alvin Gentry. I heard that Gentry wants to play him as a point Center. He could be faster and more dynamic next season.

[objective]

Other minutae:

If he had an ETO in his last year instead of a player option, he would get the trade kicker applied for the final also BUT it would added instead to the non-eto year.

So instead of having to match on 23 it would have been 26.

Thanks, LMA agent! Unless I'm understanding things wrong.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I don't recall hearing this? Has anyone else?

See

http://fadeawayworld.com/2017/05/08/...kawhi-leonard/

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wh...mpson-in-2011/

btw, has anyone seen DeMarcus Cousins lately? I saw a picture of him yesterday and it looks like he's lost a lot of weight. Looks like he's been working really hard (unlike that piece of Aldridge) at the behest of Alvin Gentry. I heard that Gentry wants to play him as a point Center. He could be faster and more dynamic next season.

Kawhi actually gets along quite well with DMC.

The only thing coming in between them teaming up is Poop.

[BatManu20]

[Mr. Body]

I don't believe Paul to Houston for a second.

[Hoops Czar]

Don't you wish the Spurs had a player on the roster that knew how to advocate?

[Hoops Czar]

I don't believe Paul to Houston for a second.

I don't believe Paul to the Spurs for .5 seconds.