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    My take is that Spurs decided it's not worth to chase Paul at price he was asking. Clippers probably were told that he won't resign with them, so they've taken at least something for him. Spurs could have easily matched this offer if wanted, but my guess is that supermax or close to supermax deal is ready in place, with full no trade and other stuff, and Spurs decided that this is not worth it. Paul gets to other team, gets the money. He is a winner.

    What next for Spurs. The question is situation with LMA. This all could be bull , or something is there.
    Spurs could now even do snt for Blake Griffin giving LMA and 2018 FRP.
    Spurs could pay Gasol this 16 mil, sign Simmons and wait for 2018 summer.
    Spurs could sign Gasol 24/3, sign Simmon, trade LMA for nothing, sign Millsap/Blake and Hill. There are plenty options left.

    I just wonder, why Spurs give up on Paul.

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    Pfft. Gasol airballs layups.

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    Do not want Hill for $20 million. Roll with Murray and some other low budget guy. Do not want even more salary tied up with 2 mediocre point guards.
    I was making a point that we should be prioritizing fit more than just talent. We have a system. We don't have to rely on pure natural skill. We aren't iso heavy or at least not recently.

    I personally hope we get players to go back to the beautiful game.... I know some people dont want to hear that, but the death blow to that offense was Aldridge and his lack of IQ and passing ability. I'll be keeping an eye on what kind of players we bring in.

    Anyways a lot of these free agents y'all want are unrealistic and don't fit. They just have a lot of talent. Spurs in the Big 3 era were overachievers and developed over time. We really only had one superstar and that was Duncan. Now we have Kawhi. He's the man. We don't need conflicting talent. We need complimentary stars like Parker and Ginobili. And while it doesn't have the buzz of a Paul or Griffin, Hill and Millsap are the perfect kind of complimentary stars. We'll see what PATFO does but I just don't want to go through a LMA drama all over again, just because. He's not a Spur, never was and was brought in as a stop gap and most these FA"s are the same. Why waste time. Imo PATFO will look for character guys that fit the system. Yes they are going to do their due diligence as they should but when they enevitably say no we go with what will probably be what's best in the first place.

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    My take is that Spurs decided it's not worth to chase Paul at price he was asking. Clippers probably were told that he won't resign with them, so they've taken at least something for him. Spurs could have easily matched this offer if wanted, but my guess is that supermax or close to supermax deal is ready in place, with full no trade and other stuff, and Spurs decided that this is not worth it. Paul gets to other team, gets the money. He is a winner.

    What next for Spurs. The question is situation with LMA. This all could be bull , or something is there.
    Spurs could now even do snt for Blake Griffin giving LMA and 2018 FRP.
    Spurs could pay Gasol this 16 mil, sign Simmons and wait for 2018 summer.
    Spurs could sign Gasol 24/3, sign Simmon, trade LMA for nothing, sign Millsap/Blake and Hill. There are plenty options left.

    I just wonder, why Spurs give up on Paul.
    Trading LMA still doesn't leave you with enough space for Millsap and Hill. Also, Hill sucks.

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    Do you understand defense? Good luck having Anderson as your lone big.
    Do you understand basketball in the nba. The trash about "rim protector" is absolutely stupid. Spurs bigs are terrible on defense. Its not needed. The nba does not have spots anymore. And if you think it does, you should stop posting.

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    Is San Antonio such hole, that nowone wants to go there and live ?

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    a S&T for Griffin would make some sense as the clippers get something back and only really have to test drive LMA for one year (unless LMA opts in next summer). spurs would have to risk the injuries that come with Blake though.

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    I'd say Gasol was a big signing.
    And also a failure.

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    Well now that there's no need to worry about recruiting Paul, Parker should the player most on the trade block. Move him, get the best offensive guard you can with the cap space, re-up Gasol and try to find another Dedmon with the room exception.

    Guard, Murray, White
    Green, Simmons, Forbes
    Leonard, Anderson, Hanga
    Aldridge, Bertans, Blossomgame
    RE big, Gasol, Milutinov

    Just be prepared to blow that group up and start over next year.

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    Is San Antonio such hole, that nowone wants to go there and live ?
    It's not SA, it's Pop and the Spurs culture. Today's players don't want a dictator coach like Pop, they want a coach they can control.

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    Is San Antonio such hole, that nowone wants to go there and live ?
    The city is a great place to live, it is a low key working class city. Can be seen as boring, especially for rich athletes. Not exactly a destination of choice for rich african Americans tbh.

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    a S&T for Griffin would make some sense as the clippers get something back and only really have to test drive LMA for one year (unless LMA opts in next summer). spurs would have to risk the injuries that come with Blake though.
    In a world with a flat cap, yes. But I'm not moving LMA and his $20 Million for Blake and his $30 Million. If Griffin had no injury concerns, it would be tempting. But LMA by and large plays every game and is a more useful player when locked in. While Blake plays to his potential more often, he's not all that reliable.

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    no to Hill. Even on a discount, he'll want too much.
    i think you will ultimately be wrong. Bobby Marks expect him to get aroun 16 mill per...

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    Who knows? The Spurs could legitimately be looking at D-Rose. He played well against the Spurs in both games last year even when Kawhi was the primary defender. Maybe a one or two year deal to allow Murray to develop.

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    Parker is such an albotross around this teams neck.

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    My take is that Spurs decided it's not worth to chase Paul at price he was asking. Clippers probably were told that he won't resign with them, so they've taken at least something for him. Spurs could have easily matched this offer if wanted, but my guess is that supermax or close to supermax deal is ready in place, with full no trade and other stuff, and Spurs decided that this is not worth it. Paul gets to other team, gets the money. He is a winner.

    What next for Spurs. The question is situation with LMA. This all could be bull , or something is there.
    Spurs could now even do snt for Blake Griffin giving LMA and 2018 FRP.
    Spurs could pay Gasol this 16 mil, sign Simmons and wait for 2018 summer.
    Spurs could sign Gasol 24/3, sign Simmon, trade LMA for nothing, sign Millsap/Blake and Hill. There are plenty options left.

    I just wonder, why Spurs give up on Paul.
    Yeah. If a Sign and Trade was necessary, then this was a "no" for the Spurs. You can't have 2 supermax deals (because Kawhi will have one shortly) on the same team, your cap would be in tatters. Especially with one of them an againg, undersized pg.

    Spurs made the right call if the S and T was Paul's requirement.

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    I'd explore getting Beverly from the clips. If they go the rebuilding route they might unload him. I think he'd fit well and save money for Blake, Hayward, etc.

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    Who knows? The Spurs could legitimately be looking at D-Rose. He played well against the Spurs in both games last year even when Kawhi was the primary defender. Maybe a one or two year deal to allow Murray to develop.
    Rose should be cheaper and require less years if the Spurs dont want to sign Hill multiple years. Multiple years for Hill should give pause for concern. Can he stay healthy....

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    Who knows? The Spurs could legitimately be looking at D-Rose. He played well against the Spurs in both games last year even when Kawhi was the primary defender. Maybe a one or two year deal to allow Murray to develop.
    . We've hit rock bottom.

    Derrick Rose.

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    Parker is such an albotross around this teams neck.
    without a doubt.

    been saying for years it's imperative that he gets moved.

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    Would be funny if it were Rose. When the dude was a star, he was one of the few guys like Kawhi who didn't seem into recruiting. Truth be told, the Bulls built around him weren't a bad team. But some said players would have joined had he been more welcoming.

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    I just want the Spurs to salary dump LMA, TP and not overpay an old ass has been to a long term deal. Is that so much to ask?

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    This is probably the best. CP for 2 years is great but Rockets will probably now sign him for 4 more years on top of 1. We really need to prepare for 3 years time when Warriors should be weaker. My pick is Hayward, who would be our defacto playmaker while Murray gets up to speed.

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    Is San Antonio such hole, that nowone wants to go there and live ?
    Yes, tbh.

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    Tbh and I live here. 50 percent of the city looks like North Mexico, it's deadly hot AND humid 9 months out of the year, public trans and facilities suck, and there's not much to do.

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