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    You're probably right, but no one knows how things will play out in a season. Maybe someone for the Warriors gets injured, maybe there's some in fighting on their team and guys get traded, maybe Murray, Simmons and Bertans develop into stellar players, who knows?

    Not that I'm defending either approach, but what would you like them to do, go all in during Kawhi's prime and possibly mortgage the future, or continue with the more conservative approach?

    Go all in during Kawhi prime (Top 3)...

    People act like Pop is gonna coach the next 5-10 years and Kawhi is a lock to play in SA his whole career..

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    You're probably right, but no one knows how things will play out in a season. Maybe someone for the Warriors gets injured, maybe there's some in fighting on their team and guys get traded, maybe Murray, Simmons and Bertans develop into stellar players, who knows?

    Not that I'm defending either approach, but what would you like them to do, go all in during Kawhi's prime and possibly mortgage the future, or continue with the more conservative approach?
    It's a tough choice. The former is risky, but the latter is unlikely to pan out since all of our young guys are unlikely to develop into all-world players. You're willingly punting away a few years of Kawhi's prime if you go that route.

    Again, the former is risky and you risk mortgaging your future. But what future do we have if we waste Kawhi's prime with no rings to show for it?

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    Spurs fans are the ing worst. You're one year removed from Duncan retiring and you just came off a season where you reached the WCF. The Spurs don't need to do other than what they've been doing. Literally had one down season (which then got them Duncan) in the past 3 decades and people here still acting like the FO is letting them down before anything has even happened. The Spurs could stand pat and I'd STILL pick them to get to the WCF and lose to GS before losing to this current Rockets team.

    That changes if they get PG or Melo, but at least give the front office a chance to do something before acting like little es.
    I am not going to whine bc I thought CP3 to Spurs was a long shot anyways...
    but standing pat is just not optional bc the old Spurs are nearly done: tony is injured, manu is going to be 41 and truth be told, he needs to retire, Lamarcus is a soft diva who wants out of the team bc he's underperforming, but he doesn't care to look in the mirror and figure out what he can do about his game instead of pointing fingers at everyone else.

    At this stage they have so many guys with a foot in retirement or out the door anyways. They have some young players who might be too young and others who might be ready to play but still so long as they are benched behind TOSB players one doesn't really know what is there for sure.

    Anyways, they just can't stand pat. I wasn't staying CP3 was the move (I thought it was uphill and he wasn't coming here)... but they do need to do something.

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    I am not going to whine bc I thought CP3 to Spurs was a long shot anyways...
    but standing pat is just not optional bc the old Spurs are nearly done: tony is injured, manu is going to be 41 and truth be told, he needs to retire, Lamarcus is a soft diva who wants out of the team bc he's underperforming, but he doesn't care to look in the mirror and figure out what he can do about his game instead of pointing fingers at everyone else.

    At this stage they have so many guys with a foot in retirement or out the door anyways. They have some young players who might be too young and others who might be ready to play but still so long as they are benched behind TOSB players one doesn't really know what is there for sure.

    Anyways, they just can't stand pat. I wasn't staying CP3 was the move (I thought it was uphill and he wasn't coming here)... but they do need to do something.
    SAGirl with the truth bomb.

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    I am not going to whine bc I thought CP3 to Spurs was a long shot anyways...
    but standing pat is just not optional bc the old Spurs are nearly done: tony is injured, manu is going to be 41 and truth be told, he needs to retire, Lamarcus is a soft diva who wants out of the team bc he's underperforming, but he doesn't care to look in the mirror and figure out what he can do about his game instead of pointing fingers at everyone else.

    At this stage they have so many guys with a foot in retirement or out the door anyways. They have some young players who might be too young and others who might be ready to play but still so long as they are benched behind TOSB players one doesn't really know what is there for sure.

    Anyways, they just can't stand pat. I wasn't staying CP3 was the move (I thought it was uphill and he wasn't coming here)... but they do need to do something.
    It'll be the same like most years: no major moves in the offseason, with discards being picked up along the way. The team will still overachieve in the regular season.

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    i dont think houston is the western number 2 right now

    we beat them fair and square, chris paul does not change the equation so much

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    ill be counterintuitive: i think houston shall regress...........

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    i dont think houston is the western number 2 right now

    we beat them fair and square, chris paul does not change the equation so much

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    ill be counterintuitive: i think houston shall regress...........
    Harden and CP3 are licking their chops imagining Pau or LMA guarding the pick and roll..

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    I think 29 other teams in the league would love to have two players that one is already about to be a super star in his prime, and the other one the sky is possibly the limit also. Possibly a lot of cap flexibility next offseason, and the years after. Also developing good role players. Great job R.C.!
    I'll be very happy to see the Spurs young players develop. It doesn't do anyone any good if they are still in the doghouse then complain everyone in the rotation but one or two guys are old.

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    F cp3, hes old already and will prob be injured by thd playoffs as usual

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    Spurs didn't show significant interest in Chris Paul, source told ESPN. Already have an aging point guard in Tony Parker.

    http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0671749706224767707-4

    Get with the times.
    Frankly from an "ageism" point of view, I am glad that they are seeing the potential for an albatross contract worse than Tony's down the line (bc he will be older than Tony with a contract that is much higher...) and turned that down.

    It seems like their efforts to trade on draft night were to get younger. They were rumored to want Porzingis for example or a high lottery pick. It's too bad LMA depressed his own value with his diva/softness so much that no team bit on that. That was possibly the loss in their summer. I am hoping they are still trying to do something when FA kicks in...

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    Warriors = Durant, Curry, Thompson, Green

    Cavs = Lebron, Irving, Love

    Rockets = Harden, CP3, shooters

    Wolves = Towns, Butler, Wiggins

    Sixers = Embiid, Fultz, Simmons, Saric, etc

    Celtics = Thomas, Horford, (soon to be Hayward or Griffin)

    Spurs = Kawhi, White, Fathead, Blossomgame, Green, Forbes, Murray, Post-Tendon Parker

    RC Buford better get on his knees tonight and pray to the stars that Kawhi stays loyal despite the ty roster he built around him. Son of a is wasting his prime. In before homers come at me and bring up the record ALL THANKS TO KAWHI
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    Morey pulled a fast one in a literal sense..Meanwhile PATFO continues to play nice and classy in a cutthroat environment..

    The question was posed to several team executives around the league, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the topic.“I don’t want to use the ‘T’ word — tampering — but we all don’t play by the rules when it comes to making deals,” one Eastern Conference executive said. “Besides, nobody is going to rat anybody out. That’s how this league works.”
    Less than 24 hours after informing Clippers officials of his wishes, Paul was traded to the Rockets on Wednesday in exchange for seven players and a 2018 first-round draft pick.
    Before the deal happened, he opted back in — earlier he had opted out — to his $24-million contract for next season, which saved the Rockets time and money.
    Beyond the typical “how it leaves the Clippers/what it does for the Rockets” discourse, the move prompted an additional response in some of the league’s front offices. In summary, something along the lines of: “Hmmm. That was fast.”
    “Every team is looking for an advantage,” one executive said. “The deal got done way too fast for somebody not to be talking already. That happened real quick. But hey, that’s how it goes in this league.”


    An NBA official said the Clippers had not complained to the league, but several team executives wondered whether the Rockets had a head start in negotiations.
    According to one NBA executive, James Harden, the Rockets’ all-star guard, had been recruiting Paul throughout the season. An executive from another team said Harden had already told a fellow NBA player that Paul’s going to Houston was a done deal.

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    I am not going to whine bc I thought CP3 to Spurs was a long shot anyways...
    but standing pat is just not optional bc the old Spurs are nearly done: tony is injured, manu is going to be 41 and truth be told, he needs to retire, Lamarcus is a soft diva who wants out of the team bc he's underperforming, but he doesn't care to look in the mirror and figure out what he can do about his game instead of pointing fingers at everyone else.

    At this stage they have so many guys with a foot in retirement or out the door anyways. They have some young players who might be too young and others who might be ready to play but still so long as they are benched behind TOSB players one doesn't really know what is there for sure.

    Anyways, they just can't stand pat. I wasn't staying CP3 was the move (I thought it was uphill and he wasn't coming here)... but they do need to do something.
    I'd much prefer they stand pat than if they make bad deals that ruin the next 3-4 years of Spurs basketball. One thing you guys don't get is that for every team out there who wins, they have to be bad first. And virtually no one here gets that because the Spurs haven't had to do that to be good for the past 20 years. They constantly retool on the fly with Pop and company reinventing themselves or pulling a rabbit out of a hat. They haven't needed lottery picks because they keep getting lottery talent through later picks.

    But that can't last forever. They don't have a ton of cap flexibility and even if they did, they've never done well in free agency with max level stars. With LMA ting the bed, they may not be able to retool on the fly this time. And frankly, if they're going to suck, please let it happen during the reign of Golden State. I would much rather we undergo a huge overhaul now and be ready in 2-3 years than to try to hold it together now and ruin the chances in the long term. Look for young developing talent instead of chasing old point guards who will get paid 40 million+ in their final years.

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    He still won't get past the second round.

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    He still won't get past the second round.
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    totally agree.

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    which means Chris Paul is NOT interested in the NBA le.....

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    Spurs fans are to spoiled.
    Spurs were 2nd in the league to the most stacked team in league history.

    Spurfan still thinks Spurs need their help to run the franchise.

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    Morey pulled a fast one in a literal sense..Meanwhile PATFO continues to play nice and classy in a cutthroat environment..



    Yes, this sums it up. Spurs had zero chance in acquiring Paul. Even if they did, Spurs would have lost a lot of players in the process.

    Where PATFO have failed is in their attempt to extend Duncan's legacy by hoping Aldridge could fill in his shoes. Did not happen and we have two seasons to pay for this mistake.

    PATFO other missteps may be not being as sharp as they used to be in the draft and not realizing that the small ball play that they invented in 2014 was the future of the league.

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    Yes get rid of the culture so spurs can pick up a bunch of me first losers to vet bounced out of rd 1 if they even make playoffs. If the team last year was healthy, they would have rang.

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    I think 29 other teams in the league would love to have two players that one is already about to be a super star in his prime, and the other one the sky is possibly the limit also. Possibly a lot of cap flexibility next offseason, and the years after. Also developing good role players. Great job R.C.!
    ???

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    Why does everyone think the Spurs wanted Paul? Does anyone really think having half our cap tied up in two ageing point guards was the master plan for the front office this season?

    Idiots.

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    Why does everyone think the Spurs wanted Paul? Does anyone really think having half our cap tied up in two ageing point guards was the master plan for the front office this season?

    Idiots.
    The GM behind the brilliant Richard Jefferson and Lamarcus Aldridge signings would never.

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    Once again, I love your optimism, but Danny is declining and we still don't know what happens with Simmons. Murray is great, but asking him to shut anyone down right now is asking a lot.

    Easy buckets and assists for CP3 and Harden are incoming...
    Their offense was never the problem.

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    The are you talking about?

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