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    That is still a terrible parallel to draw. No one should be mad at a player who is in the last year of his contract simply being on the team on a contract the team gave him

    The fact that it now possibly hinders SA is not the point.

    People being "mad" at Kawhi for not recruiting is entirely different and if you don't know that then you are probably not the brightest of people.

    If we are to assume you aren't an idiot, then the only other logical conclusion is that you are a troll.
    True. It's not tony's fault.

    Tony isn't going to retire or go away because he might be an impediment.

    Tony is not a quitter. He has pride and wants to come back and prove doubters wrong. Who wouldn't if tgey were in his shoes.

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    Imo, it likely only came down to Harden. They're friends and he can take pressure away from CP3 being the main ball handler. People are overthinking this, tbh.

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    Imo, it likely only came down to Harden. They're friends and he can take pressure away from CP3 being the main ball handler. People are overthinking this, tbh.
    That and the tampering

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    if we didn't have tony last summer, maybe we get conley.
    if we didn't have tony this summer, maybe we get cp3.

    the problem isn't that kawhi isn't reaching out to other players... the problem is simply tony still being on the team. and that probably won't change and will continue to cause issues and limit the spurs potential. it obviously has already.

    If the Spurs traded for James Harden years ago, they'd have CP3.

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    Imo, it likely only came down to Harden. They're friends and he can take pressure away from CP3 being the main ball handler. People are overthinking this, tbh.
    Houston also has more strip clubs

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    That and the tampering
    I love how it's the worst kept secret in the NBA. When the guys calling the games in the NBA Finals can openly discuss the Warriors tampering and literally laugh about it, you know the league doesn't take it all that seriously - at least not if it involves stars forming super teams that increase ratings.

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    You can't believe everything you read on the internet. That's how World War I got started.

    Those damn Germans invading Pearl Harbor. I get mad every time I think about it.

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    I know the Spurs, through other players, couldve voiced interest in Paul; however, they technically could not contact him or reach out to his agent until July 1st. So, there is no way of knowing if the Spurs seriously had an interest in him at this point. Furthermore, they couldn't even comment to anyone that they wanted to talk with him. I'm sure there are backchannels that could be used, but nothing that could ever be made public because of tampering. Tampering rules don't apply to Houston, LA, GS or any other team not the Spurs.

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    Meh to be honest it appears that everything that CP3 has done has been done to in order to make sure he got that 5th year max salary above all else. I guess I was tricked into believing that winning was really important to him and that made me want him on my team. HOWEVER some are reporting that he was more than happy to stay with the Clips if they would have given him that 5th year. The Logo said no and that is how we got where we are. If that is what makes CP3 tick then I really don't want him on the team. Which makes me a hypocrite because I have said I want Boogie on the team, even though he was content to remain with that dumpster fire of a franchise, Sacramento Kings in order to get a super max contract. That however is me ignoring Boogie's lack of compe ive drive and focusing on the fact that the Spurs didn't have a big that would actively post up James Harden in the playoffs. That I just can't stand. Back to CP3 the Spurs have never been about pay me every last cent you can type players so I wouldn't start now with an aging injury prone point guard because once that mindset enters a franchise it is hard to remove it.

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    Just a reminder:

    The only linkage of Paul to the Spurs came from Twitter troll / Laker reporter Ramonna Gunnells, and Paul after the fact.

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    You have to assume all other FA's are gonna feel the same way.

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    You have to assume all other FA's are gonna feel the same way.
    good point.

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    Those damn Germans invading Pearl Harbor. I get mad every time I think about it.
    Yeah inadvertently killing Archduke Ferdinand who must have been vacationing in the islands.

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    GTFOH harden plays his position, Kawhi is certainly better. d'antoni the coach, no bigs no D. And a 7 second offense while paul loves to pound the ball.

    You missed my point...compare the rosters as of TODAY..

    There were too many moving parts and uncertainty with Spurs..

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    I think it ultimately Paul wanted to opt in and re-enter free agency next year to maximize his back-end salaries and also have more control over playing with his banana buddies. Not sure the Spurs were willing to gut the roster for what amounts to a 1 year commitment. All this other y'all are throwing against the wall is fussy housewife gossip.

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    I will laugh my ass off if CP3 decides by the end of the year that playing with Harden long term is just not worth it and leaves. Unlikely, he will have no pressure to win in Houston, won't have to deal with Doc, and will pay no state income tax. He can afford to buy a championship ring then. I hear Babe Ruth's 1927 Yankee's WS ring is up for auction.

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    Sounds like he wanted TP to call and beg and he didn't.

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    Lol, no one gives a about Tony's feelings on bringing another PG on board. He's done. Spurs probably let him know this wasn't going to happen. They're still wiping the dog off their shoes that is Aldridge. No more malcontents and difficult personalities needed.

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    Who cares.. Its over now. Move on.

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    Those damn Germans invading Pearl Harbor. I get mad every time I think about it.



    I am learning new stuff about he world War I and II. Didn't realize the Internet came out around the time of the Ford model t. And I also could have sworn pearl Harbor was bombed in war II by Mongolia or some other oriental nation.

    I am going to go brush up on my history real quick. I am all confused.

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    this part was so predictable, tbh..everybody loves the Spurs, but nobody signs with them, all talk..doesn't help that the only relatively big name they signed is reportedly unhappy and they couldn't successfully transform him within the magical, mystical "Pop system"..
    That system only works with players who have gotten over themselves, which translated to real speak means they don't have a real shot in the league unless they play a minor role in the Spurs square dance routine.

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    LMA isn't supposed to block Chris Paul's shot during free agency.

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    I am going to go brush up on my history real quick. I am all confused.
    Just watch Animal House instead.

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    This part of what I meant when I wanted the Spurs to wait until 2018, tbh..people think it's because of the FA class, but that isn't the primary reason..next off-season provides a fresh start, where they no longer have to feel loyal to guys like Parker, Ginobili or even Gasol/Green/Aldridge..

    Many seem to ignore the way this organization operates, which is heavily influenced by the culture they have created(which involves loyalty)..I don't know why anybody would think that they aren't going to allow Parker to remain a starter or at least have a prominent role until his contract ends, it's clearly their plan IMO..it obviously hurts the team(Parker playing well in the Memphis series was nice, short-term, but would have been harmful for next season if he hadn't gotten hurt) but not everything is about the on-court product..
    Fair points, but the Spurs' off-court emphasis has worked pretty well for a while. Though most of the team's success is attributable to Tim Duncan.

    Morey, on the other hand, goes all out to put together the best on-paper team he can every year. He cares nothing for chemistry, continuity, or loyalty as far as his team-building decisions go. He would trade James Harden tomorrow if he thought it would make the team even a little bit better.

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    Fair points, but the Spurs' off-court emphasis has worked pretty well for a while. Though most of the team's success is attributable to Tim Duncan.

    Morey, on the other hand, goes all out to put together the best on-paper team he can every year. He cares nothing for chemistry, continuity, or loyalty as far as his team-building decisions go. He would trade James Harden tomorrow if he thought it would make the team even a little bit better.
    People keep throwing out loyalty like It's a thing. The NBA is a business with the end goal of trying to win championships. In the business world, loyalty is a crutch. It can send big businesses crumbling to the ground.

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