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    CROFL Grassley and Graham ting themselves.

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    CROFL Grassley and Graham ting themselves.
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    You don't have to believe I have one. It's not like they're that difficult to get. You are right about one thing though -- I have forgotten a lot of material that I don't use on a regular basis. But, I suspect that is the case with most people, unless they work in academia.



    Nah, I just ignore your incoherent ramblings about ty climate models.





    Wow, two Kellyanne references in one post. Congrats.

    So, if you back up everything you assert with real examples, perhaps you can point me to the real evidence of collusion.
    Holy crap. This may be the most effort I have seen you put into a post in years.

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    The Europeans are going with sanctions.
    The real question now is will we follow their lead or allow them the Russians to tamper.

    The collusion stuff was too difficult to be believable as I noted way back in this thread way back. This would be the best way to direct the thread along with financial dealings and possible obstruction of justice of others in the campaign. I doubt you will get the Cheeto on anything other than some financial rules. He might pay a fine.
    I am very interested in what he will do. You may give it short shrift, but it is a testable theory, that can make a prediction.

    The prediction is that he will do nothing, or as close to nothing as he can. He consistently deals harshly, especially rhetorically, with just about every country but Russia.

    Predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game, for the most part.

    The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

    Fact 1:
    Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

    Fact 2:
    Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

    Fact 3:
    Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

    Fact 4:
    Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

    Fact 5:
    Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

    Theory:
    Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

    This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

    Prediction:
    Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


    The way to falsify the theory:
    1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
    2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

    Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

    Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia
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    I think his past shady business dealings are becoming leverage against him because people with resources and motivation to dig, such as large nation states like China and Russia, are going to come up with things that he would prefer not to be known. This would also explains both his refusal to release his taxes, and his retention of control of his business enterprises. If he cedes too much operational control of those businesses, the possibility of some of those financial records getting out goes up.

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    Trump’s longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller a new target in Russia investigation


    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trum...e+Raw+Story%29

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    Republicans are risking becoming the party of Putin



    Disgraced Repug version

    Whether its leaders and members realize it, the Republican Party is at risk of becoming the Vladimir Putin-aligned party in the United States.

    It can be convincingly argued that it’s already similar to Putin-supported parties in Europe, given Donald Trump’s presidency,

    the Republican base’s increasingly favorable views of Moscow and the House GOP leadership’s disinterest in investigating and preventing Russian interference.

    Increasingly sophisticated Russian influence and cyberoperations threaten Americans’ ability to choose their own leaders.

    This isn’t hyperbole; in fact, it’s hard to overstate just how serious this issue is. Yet

    President Trump continues to sow doubt about whether Moscow even interfered in the 2016 presidential elections and to suggest the question’s insignificance by ignoring it all together.

    Our commander in chief seems more interested in protecting Moscow than he does in deterring its future attacks.


    There are also reports that the White House plans to step up lobbying efforts against a new Russia sanctions bill that the Senate passed with overwhelming bipartisan support this month.

    Worse, Trump appears to have some support in this from Republican leaders in the House. Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) have delayed the bill, citing the cons utional requirement that such bills originate in the House.

    Ryan and McCarthy appear to be more interested in delaying and weakening the bill.

    49 percent of Republican voters consider Russia to be either an ally or friendly. Only 12 percent consider it an enemy.

    In 2015, only 12 percent of Republicans held a favorable view of Russian President Vladimir Putin,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.207ceb687f6e

    You Repugs are such gullible sheeple, sucking down whatever the Trash and Repugs tell you to suck down



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    34 Members Of Congress Just Demanded Investigation Into Trump’s Attorney General

    After being stonewalled by the Justice Department, all 34 of the Democrats on the House Judiciary and Oversight committees today sent a letter to DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz demanding action.

    They want Horowitz to
    investigate Attorney General Jeff Sessions for violating his promises to recuse himself from probes into Russian interference in the 2016 election and any involvement by President Trump and his campaign in colluding with Russia or covering it up.

    “Since the Department has failed to respond to multiple previous inquiries on this matter – despite promising to do so – we now ask that your office investigate and report back to us with any findings and recommendations you determine are warranted,” said the letter.

    In particular, the lawmakers want to know if Sessions violated DOJ protocol by being part of the decision to fire FBI Director James Comey.

    “Regardless of which reason is true – that the President fired FBI Director Comedy because of his investigation into the Clinton campaign or his investigation into the Trump campaign – both matters were supposed to be off limits for the Attorney General,” declared the letter.

    Sessions himself has told different stories while claiming he did not violate his recusal. He said one case involved the DOJ and the other the FBI.


    However, the Democrats point out, both would be violations of his recusal pledge which was to cover “any existing or future investigations” into the presidential campaign.


    “The actions of Attorney General Sessions,” says the letter, “in collaborating directly with President Trump to fire Director Comedy reflect a lapse in judgement by our nation’s top law enforecement official and appear to violate multiple promises made by the Attorney General and his aides.”

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06...orney-general/

    Repugs will try to block the investigations(s)

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    McMaster: Trump to meet with Putin at the G-20 summit


    President Trump will hold his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin next week on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Hamburg, White House officials said Thursday.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/29/mcmaster-trump-to-meet-with-putin-at-the-g-20-summit/?utm_term=.f52b4e5deda0

    Vlad gonna bring some golden shower s and quality coke for BFF Trash?

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    Looking forward to everything Putin will take from sad fatty Trump.

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    #Flynn flipped

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    Well now we have a tie from Russian hackers directly to the GOP. How deep does this rabbit hole go?

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    Trying to compile his own Steele dossier on Clinton. FBI is obviously cool with dossiers and will sometimes even pay for them. Gotta get dem FISA warrants

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    GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn

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    GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn
    Super big difference from pinko Journal.

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    Well now we have a tie from Russian hackers directly to the GOP. How deep does this rabbit hole go?
    Deep. Trump's meltdown will be epic. Lordy.

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    GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn
    Why were Russian hackers heard discussing how to transmit those emails to Flynn???

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    GOP Rep admits Russia probe ‘has legs’: ‘There is justification to continue the investigation’


    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/gop-...e+Raw+Story%29

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    White House Just Revealed The Humiliating Way Trump Is Prepping For Putin Meeting

    Ahead of Trump’s planned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin at next week’s G20 summit in Germany, the President has reportedly

    told National Security Council staff to come up with “deliverables” to offer to his Russian counterpart.

    Among these concessions would likely be the return of the two Russian diplomatic compounds in Maryland and New York that were ordered evacuatedby the Obama administration following Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

    According to
    The Guardian:


    There is strong resistance in the NSC and state department to one-sided concessions aimed simply at improving the tone of US-Russian relations.

    There is also opposition within the administration to Trump’s preference for a formal bilateral meeting with Putin at the G20 summit in Germany,

    as
    first reported by the Associated Press.


    Given the fact that Russia not only has nothing to offer the United States, but is also the subject of an ongoing probe in the United States for attacking the foundation of our democracy, perhaps amassing a list of concessions that benefit only this hostile foreign power should not be our National Security Council’s priority at the moment.

    “They have been asked for deliverables, but

    there is resistance to offering anything up without anything back in return
    ,”

    said one former official familiar with the matter.


    The Senate has pushed back against Trump’s cozy relationship with Moscow by passing
    legislation to codify sanctions against Russia. The bill has since gone to the House of Representatives from the Senate with unanimous consent. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) warned lawmakers in the House against trying to soften the bill.

    “It’s critical, critical that Congress speak in a loud, clear and unified voice to [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin. I want to put the House on notice. If they water-down this bill, weaken the sanctions, add loopholes to the legislation, they will find stiff resistance here in the Senate.”


    Despite resistance from Congress, the American people, and even his own staff, the fact that Trump is still willing to kowtow to Russia is a clear indication of where his priorities lie.

    terrible optics for a White House that seems to be making little to no effort to distance itself from the foreign adversary

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06/29/white-house-just-revealed-chilling-way-trump-prepping-putin-meeting/



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    he should take a reset button

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    That story about that guy trying to get Clinton emails and who claimed to know Flynn is riveting. Conveniently dead.

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    DarrinS semen shielding on cue reflexively but of course he doesn't even like Trump.

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