why? neither one of them can play defense worth nowadays, but Parker can at least create his own shot
He's a role player on a role player contract that plenty of solid bball guys (like Lowe) have called good value. I really don't get the outrage. The only issue I have with it is why draft White then. I was certain he was drafted to be Paddy's replacement.
Maybe he's Simmons replacement at the 2...
You just know they'll let Simmons walk on a 4/50 offer sheet but will stick with Mills
Ugh
Haha .. well they knew what they wanted I guess. Cause surely they got better offers than what they got.Have to disagree there
I like Patty.He's terrific with kids and gets involved in the community. He's a true diplomat imo and a great teammate. Here's to 4 more years of that.
The outrage is not directed towards Mills at all. It's what he represents.
So now SA has TP on the books (but injured).
Has Mills on the books (for a lot more money).
Has Murray on the books (no change)
Manu maybe retires and Simmons maybe gone (replaced by White & Hanga) .
In this scenario, a back court that we 100% know was no where near good enough is now worse by any objective measure (unless Murray leaps big time) is now more expensive.
If Murray leaps, that's great, but that is independent of paying more for a back court rotation that clearly was one of the bottom in the league.
Who are you replacing him with? You didn't answer that. Who is it? Our starting point guard right now is walking around with a crutches.
Lowe and others don't care if the Spurs are contenders, as far as they're concerned the Warriors are invincible. And with moves like this, they are. Lowe is not interested in whether the Spurs are better equipped to fight.
Without convincing answers to the question of how does this deal help beat the Warriors, it's a bad deal
Forbes, the Spurs guy who they used their 1st round pick in White, another free agent on a one year deal? Many possilbities that don't require committing 4 years worth of money, even at a really good price.
That would suck... and I was not a member of the JSimms fan club. (No hater either).
And look, even if SA brings back the same team as last year minus Manu/Lee/Dedmon they can still be really good. It's just that every deal the sign today hurts signing impact players down the road too (in a bubble, of course guys like Mills can be moved with their friendly contracts - however signing a friendly deal makes it less likely they are moved out of loyalty)
Yep. My worst fears are coming true so far...Even if at good value, the Spurs are seemingly dishing out loyalty contracts to players they don't necessarily need and, in the process, hurting flexibility. This was why I was so pessimistic...
You don't think White or Forbes or any rando like Beno couldn't shoot 5/23 from 3 with crap defense against the Warriors?
Or 3/13 from 3 against OKC?
What is Mills doing in the playoffs that is so outstanding that he's necessary?
Well, the real issue is TP if we're honest. DJ has nowhere to go but up and Paddy should continue to fulfill his spark plug role for the duration of his contract. I actually think things will fall into place with the PG situation though. I don't say it as a hater, but I think TP plays a minimal role once he gets healthy and isn't brought back for 18-19. It's Murray and Paddy's time, imo
this site is not an accurate representation of most Spurs fans
My sentiments exactly. Mills defense, for example, was never good but he used to be scrappy - stealing inbounds, harassing guys, etc. He hardly even does that anymore, and his shooting has gone down in the playoffs. He's peaked. Why throw this contract at him? Might as well have signed a vet, or rolled with the young guys you have (one you just drafted). Seems like a waste of money.
Wouldn't replace him with anyone. Would rather use that money in the frontcourt. I'd roll the dice with Murray, White and Forbes until Parker came back.
I can agree with you on this point. TP is redundant now.
If you take TP out of the equation, the guard rotation is still one of the worst in the nba. But again, more expensive.
Mills is only a spark plug when it doesnt matter. I mean, I guess I would buy the argument that regular season minutes soakers are valuable; I'm strictly talking about a playoff team though. He does no good in the playoffs and that is huge.
Spurs overvalued character here.
Makes little sense to spend 50 million on a guy who cant play when it matters. Spurs dont need Mills to beat 90% of this league, yet Spurs need to sit him vs the other 10% of the league for them to have a real chance.
Why waste a 1st on a PG, when you intended to sign Mills? With Jordan Bell on board? Using a 1st on a 4th string PG smh. Okay you move White to the SG position to defend bigger guys and to have bigger guys defend him -- his effectiveness drops significantly
If they let Simmons walk, but give Mills this contract...ill be floored.
Not every move has to get you closer to the Warriors. This move provides continuity for a core that was pretty good. Ideally, Murray developing is what gets us closer to GS.
And if Murray truly leaps it makes much of this moot. Still seems like wasted money to me.
Internal improvement alone wont get you anywhere closer to GS. And yes, for a WCF team, the only thing that matters is beating GS.
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