Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[BatManu20]

[LakerHater]

Amir Johnson to Philly

[TimDunkem]

[raybies]

Sun's out on Milsap

They are going young, so there's no spot for LMA now. Maybe Lakers for Randle or my personal fav Zubac. Denver and Miami. Boston not giving anything for LMA and Miami really doesn't have assets.

[raybies]

There goes Phx as a possible landing spot for Softus.

Yup. Sux. They have assets too

[mo7888]

If we could get galli and chandler or gay in a s&t for lma. Man, our team would look nice. We would play faster. And mills would play to his contract. That's what I think why we snatched mills up. This post up style is not his game. We need to run. Even Murray needs to run. The only issue here is Gasol.

It would help...i prefer Galinari then Chandler...im not high in gay though because of the injury he's trying to come back from.

[LakerHater]

[TimDunkem]

Only going to make at least 3 mill more than bow-legged Green.

[mo7888]

One tweet about Phoenix 'going young' doesn't mean much on day 1 of FA

[raybies]

So Amir got 11 in Philly. Should be an idea of Dedmons market right now. He should be an MLE guy in my estimation or a little more. Might be affordable if nothing else pans out. That's a steal for a starting big.

[Chinook]

If they're up against the tax, they could always either not use the LLE or save $1.3 million by dumping Forbes.

People on here keep thinking about the roster as currently cons uted and completely ignore the fact that they'll add at least one useful rotation piece with the MLE.

Also, it could be Hanga on the LLE for all we know.

Issue with dumping Forbes is that he's a two-year vet, so any min deal replacing him counts as the same for cap purposes.

Actually Blossomgame's salary might have to be bumped up in tax calculations too. I don't remember the rule about that.

[Chinook]

So Amir got 11 in Philly. Should be an idea of Dedmons market right now. He should be an MLE guy in my estimation or a little more. Might be affordable if nothing else pans out. That's a steal for a starting big.

And that's a one-year deal. The full MLE is a much more tempting offer for a mid-career big like Dewanye.

[TimDunkem]

So Amir got 11 in Philly. Should be an idea of Dedmons market right now. He should be an MLE guy in my estimation or a little more. Might be affordable if nothing else pans out. That's a steal for a starting big.

He's not coming back for Pop to just bench him in favor of Gasoft again.

[SAGirl]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...on-losing-end/Considered losers on Day 1?

of course.

[raybies]

He's not coming back for Pop to just bench him in favor of Gasoft again.

He said after the season he'd be open to returning. It's pops decision

[raybies]

And that's a one-year deal. The full MLE is a much more tempting offer for a mid-career big like Dewanye.

Exactly. Good point.

[tbdog]

Sun's out on Milsap

And not interested in LMA.

[TimDunkem]

He said after the season he'd be open to returning. It's pops decision

Then goodbye, Dedmon.

[BatManu20]

Nene out

[BatManu20]

Complete waste of his prime if he goes to DEN.

[duncan2150]

What's going on right now is pretty close to the scenario I laid out in my TT salary thread: (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266699)

Differences so far is that the tax line is $3 Million lower than projected and that Pau has opted out. Also replace Lee and Dedmon with the LLE and MLE, respectively.

This is what the projected salary chart looks like:

Name	2017-18
LaMarcus Aldridge	$21,461,010
Kawhi Leonard	$18,868,625
Tony Parker	$15,453,126
Patty Mills	$11,160,714
Danny Green	$10,000,000
Kyle Anderson	$2,151,704
Tim Duncan (stretched)	$1,881,250
Milutinov	$1,832,075
Derrick White	$1,697,225
Jonathan Simmons (QO)	$1,676,735
Dejounte Murray	$1,312,611
Davis Bertans	$1,312,611
Bryn Forbes	$1,312,611
Livio Jean-Charles (waived)	$1,035,200
Jaron Blossomegame	$815,615
MLE	$8,406,000
LLE	$3,290,000
Calculated Total	$103,667,112
Luxury Tax:	$119,266,000
Room Under Tax:	$15,598,888

The upshot of this is that the Spurs have $17.3 Million to split between Simmons and Gasol in order to stay under the tax. Assuming Simmons gets a first-year salary of the MLE, Gasol would have to sign a deal with an FYS of $8.87. That puts them in the $18M/2 or $28M/3 range. No using one or both of the exceptions would give the team much-needed breathing room -- especially long-term. But with there still being at least one hole in the rotation, they probably should look for help. They could also continue to stash Milutinov, but I don't think that would make any sense. You don't want to risk him having a good year and pulling a Bogdanovic.

We have to count mills new salary and not His cap hold now ?

[BatManu20]

[TimDunkem]

Det culture.

[cjw]

Issue with dumping Forbes is that he's a two-year vet, so any min deal replacing him counts as the same for cap purposes.

Actually Blossomgame's salary might have to be bumped up in tax calculations too. I don't remember the rule about that.

But won't they have enough players under contract?

Kawhi, Green, LMA, Bertans, Murray, Parker, Anderson, Mills = 8

MLE, LLE, White, Blossomgate, Gasol = 13

Add in Miluntov and Simmons and you're full. I don't see Forbes on roster if it gets filled out otherwise.

We have to count mills new salary and not His cap hold now ?

Not now. But Chinook is calculating for the luxury tax.

[Chinook]

We have to count mills new salary and not His cap hold now ?

For tax purposes, yes.