but spur win 60 games last year with this team
And now they're a year older, and 5 more all stars just went to other Western teams for mostly scraps while PATFO inking Fatty to 60 million dollar deals
Eh, I'm starting to think that the front office had no interest in any of these guys anyway. All the marquee free agents are 30+ anyway. As I'm watching them get signed for ridiculous cash, I get happier and happier they weren't brought in. I'm trusting the process here that maybe Aldridge will be traded and our guys might get a fair return. This is a supremely overrated free agent class, don't be so pissed about losing out on these old timers
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I was thinking this a month or two ago. But Patty gets $12 mill a year? After showing everyone what he can do, but most importantly, what he can't do. He's not anything close to a point guard. He's a barley 6 foot shooter. I've seen all I need to from Patty in the playoffs. I like D-Rose cause he can penetrate and score. He can run an offense. He'd probably be the best bang for the buck the Spurs may get this offseason. We'll have to wait and see what he signs for, but maybe we could have talked him in to coming here for..I don't know....$12 mill. if he goes down we still have Murray, Forbes, the draft pick and TP. Hopefully with no big name point guards signed, Murray gets lots of minutes.
Smartest post I've seen in here in a while.
Agree. Spurs have LMA that wants out and nobody has an interest in a trade. Have their point guard on crutches and the best case scenario, comes back in 2018.
OKC got a rental in Paul George, that's because Indiana had confidence that the two guys they got locked up in long term contracts are likely to be happy playing in Indiana. You cannot say the same about Aldridge and Green. Both much older and may not have any upside left.
People (so that excludes some of you), there is a difference between being paralyzed and not panicking. This team won 128 games the last 2years. LMA was doing something right. You don't trade him when his value is low. If you need to trade him wait until he has a few good games. Most GMs in this league think the last thing you did will repeat ad nauseum. Most here think Kawhi will be better. Bertans and Murray will be better. If they need to trade someone to create cap space they can do it. See what Simmons can actually do. Heck, I think it is looking more likely Dedmon is back as money starts to dry up. Lamenting a 4 year, very tradeable deal is ridiculous. This is how the Spurs have been one of the league's best franchises ffor 20 years. Last year was an anomaly that temporarily increased the cost of role players. Not getting swept up in the hysteria is the correct long term move.
I don't know what people expect. Clearing $35 million a year for Chris Paul was hard enough and he didn't want to play here. Giving close to that money to Millsap is utterly stupid. Paul George was pulling more than the team was willing or able to spend. Jimmy Butler went cheap, but we would have had to trade way more than Dejounte Murray for him.
It feels like ton of activity is going on around the league, but very little is actually happening. OKC basically flipped Ibaka for George. Good for them. Ibaka is better than any asset we have available to trade, and OKC doesn't even know if they can keep George after this year. Houston helped themselves a lot but it's a ed up team philosophy and I'm not sure how it will work.
The Spurs have a lot of space to play with next year. They're coming off an easy 60 wins this year and should rack up more next. I don't see any great fixes. Durant ed the league and compe ion, so might as well keep your powder dry. One more year ain't that much when the alternative is ty, ty deals like Millsap for $30 ing million a year. Holy .
Until giniobili and parker retire we are stuck.
They're not the problem. The problem is an exploding cap and good but aging players sucking up most of it. Then teams are pushing big deals, like max deals, to guys like Otto Porter, too. Meanwhile not much new talent is coming into the league.
The problem is the league is facing an exploding cap and a flatlining talent pool. A tidy, careful team like the Spurs is going to have trouble in this environment.
They signed Gasol last year to a bad contract.
Once bitten twice shy, I don't blame the FO for a holding pattern (for 3 days).
If we had kept Boban and Boris, Spurs perhaps would have had a better chance against GSW.
Because why? They would have killed Pachulia?
damned if you do; damned if you don't. Two free agency periods ago, spurs go all in on Alrdridge. Now y'all ing cuz they won't dump him so they can pick up some other garbage. I'm glad the spurs FO isn't run by the numb nuts on this board.
I'm guessing not. Most are stuck on "Didn't sign CP3 or PG... the sky is falling."
This is why Spur's can't compete anyway - pockets not deep enough to write those checks:
complaining about Sap's three year deal with a team option after year two goes to show how little some spurfan pay attention to the NBA outside this team. Essentially a two year deal who cares about the price, which is pretty much in line with the going rate for those types with the cap explosion regardless. That's a good deal in today's NBA. But PATFO ass lickers will semen shield their refusal to make deals by saying any deal for a star player that isn't below market value is horrible
Does the luxury tax money still go to other teams? That would be cool.
On the other hand, Spurs are going to have a ton of cap space in 2019, while half the league will be over the cap. Not sure if that will be worth anything because coveted free agents don't go to San Antonio (LMA being the exception).
It is a pity all of the uncertainty caused by the league's decision to explode the salary cap rather than implement incremental cap increases has fallen on Kawhi's prime. But that is beyond the Spurs' control.
I don't think the talent pool is flatlining as much as slightly declining/becoming more unpredictable due to the league's preoccupation with young but raw talent coming out of college much less prepared for NBA-play and the NBA life-style.
if Donald trump was a spurs fan, he'd be posting on this forum. sad. very sad.
It was the player's union decision and not the league. The NBA was pushing for a ramp up in the cap, with the money in the gap between revenue and cap being distributed to the players anyway - either equal shares or based on salary.
I definitely think it has flatlined. Take a look at the last ten draft classes. They've been almost uniformly terrible. Sure, there are some good players mixed in, but the lotteries have been terrible.
It was the players' union's bargaining position, but they could not implement it unilaterally. Th League cratered to the demand.
derrick rose is goof for 40-50 games of the season(not including playoffs). What would be the point of signing him again? He hasn't finished a season in years
Flatlined - declined/become more unpredictable - take your pick. The product is hurting. The explosion of the cap was intended to enrich the aging stars who control the NBAPA before they declined too much to cash in on the bonanza - other consequences be damned. That's what we now have.
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