Outside of Chris Paul I don't think there was a legit option out there for the Spurs that could have elevated us past GS.
CP3 chose to go elsewhere so it's best to stand pat rather than take on a new bad contract.
Just look at the money a bunch of scrubs got out there! It makes our deals with Simmons and Patty look reasonable.
On the contrary, I think Spurs are right where they want to be. It basically gives Lamarcus an ultimatum - you either bust your ass to play hard and Spurs get some good players back mid-season, or you oppose and sit on the bench, tanking your trade and subsequent contract value coming out.
I agree with everything you said except I don't even think CP3 would have helped against the Warriors. The Warriors used to respect him but after 2014 they have owned his ass. Like you said I don't think there was anybody out there that could have really helped the Spurs who was available in this FA market. Historically the Spurs don't sign stars in FA. When they have money they sign good role players. I think most spurs fans have a hard time accepting that.
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Oh look, another whiny Spurs fan thread ing because we didn't sign Paul, George, Millsap, and LeBron in the first two days of free agency / trades.
Meanwhile, Spurs are sitting on cap room while several other teams overpay for talent. Spurs are going to get some good talent this summer based on the market collapsing. Look at George Hill. He's gone from 30+ million a year to what? There's talk that something in the low to mid teens might get it done with him now, and honestly there's not much other compe ion for his services at this point. Spurs could still get him on a bargain deal.
There's several other talented players out there that the Spurs are likely looking into, they may have already offered a deal or figured out the price they're willing to pay for. Some of you continue to get bent because the front office isn't communicating all its moves via the Spurs twitter feed. They've never worked that way, Spurs fans should be used to this by now.
So far all I can tell is people are pissed because:
1. We wouldn't commit to giving Paul 200 million, including 45 million a year when he's 37 freakin' years old.
2. We wouldn't give Millsap, a 32 year old big with lots of miles on those knees a $100 million dollar deal for three years when we don't have the cap room either.
3. We didn't have the young assets that Indy was looking for when it traded George.
4. We wouldn't give Otto Porter a max deal.
5. We wouldn't give Re $23 million a year
Outside of that, no moves have happened so far that Spurs fans should lose any sleep over. Get a dog, go play with your kids, hit up the Taco Cabana down the street, go set off some firecrackers, and check back in 3-4 days and all will be clear.
Perfect.Oh look, another whiny Spurs fan thread ing because we didn't sign Paul, George, Millsap, and LeBron in the first two days of free agency / trades.
Meanwhile, Spurs are sitting on cap room while several other teams overpay for talent. Spurs are going to get some good talent this summer based on the market collapsing. Look at George Hill. He's gone from 30+ million a year to what? There's talk that something in the low to mid teens might get it done with him now, and honestly there's not much other compe ion for his services at this point. Spurs could still get him on a bargain deal.
There's several other talented players out there that the Spurs are likely looking into, they may have already offered a deal or figured out the price they're willing to pay for. Some of you continue to get bent because the front office isn't communicating all its moves via the Spurs twitter feed. They've never worked that way, Spurs fans should be used to this by now.
So far all I can tell is people are pissed because:
1. We wouldn't commit to giving Paul 200 million, including 45 million a year when he's 37 freakin' years old.
2. We wouldn't give Millsap, a 32 year old big with lots of miles on those knees a $100 million dollar deal for three years when we don't have the cap room either.
3. We didn't have the young assets that Indy was looking for when it traded George.
4. We wouldn't give Otto Porter a max deal.
5. We wouldn't give Re $23 million a year
Outside of that, no moves have happened so far that Spurs fans should lose any sleep over. Get a dog, go play with your kids, hit up the Taco Cabana down the street, go set off some firecrackers, and check back in 3-4 days and all will be clear.
Spurs are the team that eliminated the Rockets without both Parker and Leonard.
They know what they are doing and they know the talent that they have.
Realistically, to beat GSW, Spurs need to turn White into Harden-lite and Blossomgame into Jimmy Butler-lite. Then Spurs can be compe ive.
They will also about not getting Hayward when he signs a deal with the Celtics or Heat.Oh look, another whiny Spurs fan thread ing because we didn't sign Paul, George, Millsap, and LeBron in the first two days of free agency / trades.
Meanwhile, Spurs are sitting on cap room while several other teams overpay for talent. Spurs are going to get some good talent this summer based on the market collapsing. Look at George Hill. He's gone from 30+ million a year to what? There's talk that something in the low to mid teens might get it done with him now, and honestly there's not much other compe ion for his services at this point. Spurs could still get him on a bargain deal.
There's several other talented players out there that the Spurs are likely looking into, they may have already offered a deal or figured out the price they're willing to pay for. Some of you continue to get bent because the front office isn't communicating all its moves via the Spurs twitter feed. They've never worked that way, Spurs fans should be used to this by now.
So far all I can tell is people are pissed because:
1. We wouldn't commit to giving Paul 200 million, including 45 million a year when he's 37 freakin' years old.
2. We wouldn't give Millsap, a 32 year old big with lots of miles on those knees a $100 million dollar deal for three years when we don't have the cap room either.
3. We didn't have the young assets that Indy was looking for when it traded George.
4. We wouldn't give Otto Porter a max deal.
5. We wouldn't give Re $23 million a year
Outside of that, no moves have happened so far that Spurs fans should lose any sleep over. Get a dog, go play with your kids, hit up the Taco Cabana down the street, go set off some firecrackers, and check back in 3-4 days and all will be clear.
No. Most of it now goes to LGBTQ support, to help those traumatized by South Carolina's bathroom bill.
Nah, this Spurs fan will just about the Spurs paying Patty 50 million the first second of free agency.
If you're going to pay, pay for a upgrade. Don't pay at the position if it doesn't move the needle. Mills is a sideways move that keeps depth/experience intact w/ rotation at the PG spot.
George Hill actually moved the needle -- if they just had some patience to pay him instead of Mills, the Spurs would have actually made a guaranteed stride towards GS.
Now it's all dependent on a Murray leap and Spurs paid 50 million for this scenario. Beyond unnecessary.
North Carolina.
I thought Mills contract was a lot. Your right the Spurs should have waited and let the market dictate Mill's value. It's possible they could have gotten him for a little bit cheaper around 8-9 mil year. Regardless of how much the Spurs paid Mills I didn't think George Hill was going to comeback here. Hill is looking to get paid. I have heard he wants to get somewhere around 20 mil a year. There is rumors now that he might sign a 1 year deal with the Lakers that is similar to what Red got with the Sixers.
LOL. Obviously I wasn't traumatized by it. North Carolina it is.
AnyOne with brains replies!!! The same team that you just mentioned got this team to the 2nd best record in the Association & WCF... Yeap pretty crappy team I'd say..
They probably could have had Millsap, a better player and cultural fit than Aldridge (who they then could have mostly salary dumped), for essentially 2 years and $38-39M. Aldridge will make $21-22M next season anyway, so add $8-9M for next season, $30M for the following one and then they could have declined the team option.
Culture is a great thing until you overvalue it.
If you're going to pay, pay for a upgrade. Don't pay at the position if it doesn't move the needle. Mills is a sideways move that keeps depth/experience intact w/ rotation at the PG spot.
George Hill actually moved the needle -- if they just had some patience to pay him instead of Mills, the Spurs would have actually made a guaranteed stride towards GS.
Now it's all dependent on a Murray leap and Spurs paid 50 million for this scenario. Beyond unnecessary.
We needed Hill and Millsap. I think that would have been enough to overtake GS.
Oh look, another whiny Spurs fan thread ing because we didn't sign Paul, George, Millsap, and LeBron in the first two days of free agency / trades.
Meanwhile, Spurs are sitting on cap room while several other teams overpay for talent. Spurs are going to get some good talent this summer based on the market collapsing. Look at George Hill. He's gone from 30+ million a year to what? There's talk that something in the low to mid teens might get it done with him now, and honestly there's not much other compe ion for his services at this point. Spurs could still get him on a bargain deal.
There's several other talented players out there that the Spurs are likely looking into, they may have already offered a deal or figured out the price they're willing to pay for. Some of you continue to get bent because the front office isn't communicating all its moves via the Spurs twitter feed. They've never worked that way, Spurs fans should be used to this by now.
So far all I can tell is people are pissed because:
1. We wouldn't commit to giving Paul 200 million, including 45 million a year when he's 37 freakin' years old.
2. We wouldn't give Millsap, a 32 year old big with lots of miles on those knees a $100 million dollar deal for three years when we don't have the cap room either.
3. We didn't have the young assets that Indy was looking for when it traded George.
4. We wouldn't give Otto Porter a max deal.
5. We wouldn't give Re $23 million a year
Outside of that, no moves have happened so far that Spurs fans should lose any sleep over. Get a dog, go play with your kids, hit up the Taco Cabana down the street, go set off some firecrackers, and check back in 3-4 days and all will be clear.
1st, what's broken with the team?
2nd, what does that mean in terms of prognosis for next season?
3rd, who exists as a free agent that can change that prognosis for the better?
4th, is it a valuable move for the future of the franchise or just a PR statement?
Getting George Hill back would make me a very happy man.
Answer, if it's so easy. Then progress down the list. I didn't say they don't have needs, but go ahead.
Why would I waste time on a poor man's Chump...Two sentences is all you get.
Why would I waste time on a poor man's Chump...
Beeing sarcastic?They probably could have had Millsap, a better player and cultural fit than Aldridge (who they then could have mostly salary dumped), for essentially 2 years and $38-39M. Aldridge will make $21-22M next season anyway, so add $8-9M for next season, $30M for the following one and then they could have declined the team option.
Or what leads you to this assumption?
Fat hands up there probably choked him. RIP
That's what I thought. Pussy little white Twitter got Joe, bottom of the barrel still after all these years.Why would I waste time on a poor man's Chump...
That's what I thought. Pussy little white Twitter got Joe, bottom of the barrel still after all these years.
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