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    Does Pop keep his salary and give him an allowance?
    Kids will be kids regardless of how much they make. From what I know, he can be on the emotional side. He will grow up like we all did.

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    Still waiting for Murray to get into the lane and pull up for a J rather than a FT line floater. Send Murray to the g-league and tell him to stay there until he has some kind of mud-range game.

    His D. 😂 Fultz is going to rip him a new one when Spurs play Philly

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    Good first post. Welcome to the forum

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    Sometimes I think Murray just goes to the gym for pictures for his Snapchat account..
    Man, I hate to agree with you but the cynic in me has been thinking the same thing. I used to watch people stay at work after hours and around - only to tell others that they work hard, stay late, etc.. Its bull . People interested in getting better at something don't take ing selfies while "putting in the work". I hope Kawhi kicks his ass out of his home and sends him back to San Antonio if he pulls that with him. What a child.

    Hopefully, this is a matter of just being young and he figures out what he needs to do to get better.

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    I was actually impressed with Murray. If you didn't watch the game you wouldn't know it but he made a lot of plays for his teammates. Some plays ended up on layups teammates botched. He found a lot of guys open for 3 who missed too. Defenses collapsed on his drives and bc he can't shoot he can't take over games when that happens IMO but has guys made shots off his passes, he would have had over 10 assists easy. In that respect he was impressive.

    His ballhandling, court vision and passing was better than last summer.

    However on creating for himself: The problem is that outside of the floater he didn't showcase anything else offensively for himself. He's not a jumpshooter and that doesn't help him. He can only get to the basket if help doesn't come or dish to someone if there's help so he wasn't able to affect the game offensively once teammates couldn't finish shots he created. With better teammates he will look better I think for that reason. He couldn't dominate or take over basically. Maybe in some other games we'll see him be more versatile... it's just one game.

    Defensively, Until he adds some weight his defense won't be the best that it can be. He got lit up by Exum and Mitc in part bc the slightest contact gets him off his feet and flying away leaving a guy open for a layup. His weight training this summer is key.

    On first impression Blosdomgame doesn't look like an NBA player. He's an athlete but looks average in size to everyone else and for an athlete he wasn't special on defense or anything and he can neither shoot nor finish with skill any kind of layup. I suppose only wide open dunks he can make. But in this game he had layups and missed them all. Needs work. Unless he just had a bad game, he's dleague bound in a 2 way contract IMO.

    Bertans was a disappointment. He couldn't guard anyone or protect the rim and guys got offensive boards with him around the rim with ease. He was out of position often. He can shoot and if he had shot well in this game I am sure guys would be nuts and forget about everything else. But he has things to work on. I think he will be better at least offensively in the next game bc he's too good of a shooter to not bounce back from this, and at some point Will Hardy had him catch a lob that ended with him getting fouled plus the layup and he finished plays on cuts. I am sure offensively he can show more but this game he struggled.

    It's plainly obvious if Forbes isn't hitting shots he's not going to be a positive. He's limited easily if you stick to him which isn't difficult to do. He struggled with the length and athleticism of the Jazz guards on both ends. he couldn't finish his floater and was blocked. He couldn't get to the rim. He missed rushed jumpshots. Maybe quickening his shot is something he's working on. He tried to make plays for others too but he's so small he has trouble getting passes out cleanly. He can't get by anyone. Maybe with improved chemistry he will be able to play better, with better picks set or something. He is another one who can get hot next game and look much better.

    Will do others later, LJC, CoJe, White, etc.
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    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
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    Maybe because they're not done yet?
    Yes. I was being sarcastic. Timvp doesn't show up in 2 years and his appearance is a comment on summer league game 1...???!! I wanted more. but I was mostly being cheeky

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    Will do others later, LJC, CoJe, White, etc.
    nah don't worry about it. We already got what we needed from Timvp

    Just sayin

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    nah don't worry about it. We already got what we needed from Timvp

    Just sayin

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    I still hurts tbh

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    Murray is dating a upcoming senior at Reagan High School who is a friend of mines little cousin. From what I heard, being away from her so much being away from her so much has been really hard on this. It could explain some of his struggles. Sucks but at his age young love can really w/ you
    Kids will be kids regardless of how much they make. From what I know, he can be on the emotional side. He will grow up like we all did.
    Wouldn't that make her underage? And lol at the suggestion that he struggled bc he misses her. So embarrassing if true.

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    Welcome back Timvp!

    Thanks for the thoughts, I wasn't able to catch the game. I hate Bryn Forbes' game overall and I don't think he will make it. What do you think of him as a prospect?

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    Murray is dating a upcoming senior at Reagan High School who is a friend of mines little cousin. From what I heard, being away from her so much being away from her so much has been really hard on this. It could explain some of his struggles. Sucks but at his age young love can really w/ you
    Murray would never date a San Antonio land whale. He's dating IG model Jilly Anais




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    White's jumper seems to have a natural fade to it, a la Dirk. Between that, his crafty pump fakes and hesitation moves, I think he'll be able to get his shot off against pretty much anyone. Dude is a gamer.

    As for Murray, I'm not really concerned. The staff usually gives players in his position something to work on. Last year he used his athleticism to score with ease around bad the basket, so I don't know what more he has to prove from that aspect of his game. They clearly want to see how he performs as a facilitator and distributor. For both of those, I'd give him a solid review. That said, his lack of effort on the defensive end was concerning. He'll need to be more consistent on that end to earn minutes with Pop.

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    White's jumper seems to have a natural fade to it, a la Dirk. Between that, his crafty pump fakes and hesitation moves, I think he'll be able to get his shot off against pretty much anyone. Dude is a gamer.

    As for Murray, I'm not really concerned. The staff usually gives players in his position something to work on. Last year he used his athleticism to score with ease around bad the basket, so I don't know what more he has to prove from that aspect of his game. They clearly want to see how he performs as a facilitator and distributor. For both of those, I'd give him a solid review. That said, his lack of effort on the defensive end was concerning. He'll need to be more consistent on that end to earn minutes with Pop.
    exactly. It appears as if Murray was told to facilitate. He could have easily had 10 assists too but there were so many bricks. Still, I'll feel better about him if he shows something more with his shot at some point. And, on a side note, that Jazz broadcast crew is clueless.

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    Murray would never date a San Antonio land whale. He's dating IG model Jilly Anais



    damn

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    Murray's weight isn't really his biggest issue on defense in my opinion. I personally don't think he really knows how because his anticipation sucks😳 It will get better hopefully while working with Kawhi...... He's so young; I truly applaud him for trying to do and be the right type of player👍🏾 Stop all the flashy stuff and his game will expand

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    White needs to extend his arms outward(increase wingspan) while on the perimeter and shuffle his feet creating better lateral movement😉 He's gonna be a player

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    Not my type don't like the surf board chest girls on the plus side though it does give you a place to rest your beer..

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    Not my type don't like the surf board chest girls on the plus side though it does give you a place to rest your beer..
    RC?

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    White's jumper seems to have a natural fade to it, a la Dirk. Between that, his crafty pump fakes and hesitation moves, I think he'll be able to get his shot off against pretty much anyone. Dude is a gamer.

    As for Murray, I'm not really concerned. The staff usually gives players in his position something to work on. Last year he used his athleticism to score with ease around bad the basket, so I don't know what more he has to prove from that aspect of his game. They clearly want to see how he performs as a facilitator and distributor. For both of those, I'd give him a solid review. That said, his lack of effort on the defensive end was concerning. He'll need to be more consistent on that end to earn minutes with Pop.
    I thought he looked good defensively the first couple of possessions. But after he came down funny on that steal and dunk (Spurs fourth basket I think) he looked flat footed from there on out.

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    Well I am convinced. We're ed

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    It still hurts.

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    exactly. It appears as if Murray was told to facilitate. He could have easily had 10 assists too but there were so many bricks. Still, I'll feel better about him if he shows something more with his shot at some point. And, on a side note, that Jazz broadcast crew is clueless.
    I don't know about the crew. It seems like they try to provide some insight into different players, even though they don't regularly cover them. Their overview of White and the debate about whether Mills or Murray starts were not within the norm of casual NBA conversations. I think they do try and do some homework.

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    I thought he looked good defensively the first couple of possessions. But after he came down funny on that steal and dunk (Spurs fourth basket I think) he looked flat footed from there on out.
    I rewatched the game looking specifically at Murray and White's defense. First two plays Murray was beat off the dribble by Exum who didn't even need a pick, just absolutely blew past him.. It didn't go much uphill from there. His position is not good and he doesn't move his feet well, often taking little two foot hops rather than sliding. White's position, anticipation and foot movement were much better. He should be at least adequate defensively, certainly better than Mills.

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