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Parker was a professional in Europe for 3 years before coming over. Murray played 1 year of college ball. Let's not compare the two.
Basically, I just want to hammer the point home on those Murray fans, he's nowhere near a rookie Tony Parker. I'd kill for a rookie Tony Parker over Murray right now.
Parker was a professional in Europe for 3 years before coming over. Murray played 1 year of college ball. Let's not compare the two.
I admit to being a big Murray fan, friend. I felt hammered enough by Dijon, himself, after this underwhelming performance. But it was only the first game of SL, so I will hold my breath and keep my fingers crossed.
I think a lot of us are really big Murray fans, but obviously there is concern because the guard rotation can't afford any setbacks.
However, I think what we know is despite his really great work ethic, he's not some generational talent (which is not a knock - few are). He's not SO good that he's just going to dominate any situation. Playing with a lot of bad players, new players for him, is going to make it somewhat tough. This is going to be a process with Murray and going to take time. When he's around other elite talents, I'm sure it will be easier.
No, we cannot afford any setbacks or we may well fall into the middle of the playoff pack - or lower. Knowing of Pop's fondness for GHill, with him still dangling in free agency, I cannot shed the idea that PATFO might figure out a way to circle back and sign him. I would not be surprised. If we keep LMA there is not nearly the hole in the frontcourt. If we do not re-sign Simmons, we would be a short in the wings. But Dijon has some of the skills of Simmons... In short, I could see PATFO rationalizing an offer for Hill at some low (apparently market-value) figure, and giving him a raise when Tony comes off the books next season. Murray goes to the bench to assume a Manu-role, for which he may actually be better suited than PG. Not saying I want him, but I am saying I could see it happening.
Speedy Claxton had to bail him out in the 2003 Finals. I think that's part of why they really wanted JKidd.
Haynes said earlier that Murray and Parker have a lot in common. They see Murray as a player capable to run the offense ala parker i.e finding the balance between creating for himself and for the others constantly taking the decisions on the offense.
I believe they see Murray as a potential starter
The difference is TP was an ELITE finisher at the rim and Murray is no where close to that at this point. That one skill alone is a massive difference between him and TP. TP had to find the balance because he could easily create high percentage looks for himself off of his elite penetration.
Murray has to be able to score before he has to decide between calling his own number and passing.
Good point but Murray has the higher ceiling. He can get better at finishing and on his jumpshot. But already he's a better rebounder/defender than TP.
White will be starting
Yuck to either of them as a starting PG. Sad that our only hope is TP can comeback in Pre-injury form and not overweight. Basically, we're screwed.
And people are too high on Murray. He hasn't played PG well at all. He's scored ok in a few games, but the only potential he has shown is in his measurements for height and wingspan.
I am kinda thinking that White is going to take point and Murray is going to take time at SG
Murray couldnt even dribble the ball up the court in the playoffs. That is how fundamentally unsound the league is. Pathetic
Let's just agree to disagree there. Don't think he has a higher ceiling at all. Even if things go really well, I don't think he has a higher ceiling.
I don't get that at all. We've seen what Mills can and can't do. He's has enough time in the league to show what he is. He's not going to be able play great defense or run an offense. Murrray at his best right now is more effective than Mills. If he gets any better at all, he's better than Mills. Your point of view is saying that Murray is basically not going to be an NBA caliber PG.
it's a don't shoot the messenger situation here tbh...
I agree with you I'm not sure comparaison is good (parker was already extremely good near the rim when he was drafted) but that's what FO is thinking about the kid. They see a bit of Parker on him. I wish they are right
Murray is like 2-20 in the summer league & Mills must've shot that against Golden State in the WCF....
Spurs still depending on a 35yr old post-quad tendon surgery Parker smh
White starts.
In order for Murray to take his game to the next level he needs to develop a consistent and reliable jumper. If he can't do that he'll be out of the league after his rookie contract ends. White will be competing for minutes with him.
Going to take a miracle for Murray to improve his game in the summer.
Smart, Bradley and Crowder are on trading block, any one of them is better than Murray.
My gosh, that isn't even close. Murray will need to spend a lot of time in the G league this year. He also needs to get stronger and more physical. He's way to skinny to handle the physicality of opposing defenders. He needs to gain about 15 to 20 pounds of muscle and that will take about a year for him to do that. He barely weighs 170 pounds and is 6'5".
It's funny how many people here were saying Murray should be starting over Parker. He's looked like a bust through 2 games in summer league and I thought he mostly sucked last year but for a few games where he actually finished his layups and made a jumper or two.
not four days ago spurfan in offseason thread calling dej0-10nte untouchable.
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