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    The Spurs have always acted in a way that was best for the long term. Last year the e in the salary cap temporarily skewed the market for role players. The salary cap jumped 34% from the 15/16 season to the 16/17 season. But because teams had to spend to at least 90% of the threshold and more because most GMs don't have the job security that Buford has they massively spent on guys who weren't even starters much less stars--Crabbe, Mozgov, etc. Role players weren't paid 34% more they were paid in some cases 300% more. Now the salary cap is moving up more slowly as it had in the past. Last year's spending spree set expectations for this year unrealistically high and while there was a bit of a final blow off for lesser talent for the most part it is over. Many players that were expecting massive paydays will settle for 1 year deals or much smaller long term deals--Red , Hill, etc. Just because the Spurs FO elected not to get swept away in the hysteria doesn't mean that they were paralyzed it simply means that they are patient. Not dropping LMA for a bag of peanuts as some would have them do was prudent. So many GMs are herd thinkers. Whatever happened most recently will continue ad nauseum. When LMA goes through a nice stretch during the season his value will skyrocket and the Spurs will make a trade if they are so inclined. I think Popovich will work to get LMA more success this year and that will make his value higher and his at ude better. This board is the epitome of impatience so to some patience is mistaken for being paralyzed.
    could be that or we give PAFTO possibly to much credit... As far as going out and getting free agents.. In the past 10 seasons who many good free agents have they went out and got & it worked out successfully?.. RJ - NO , 2nd coming of SJAX not much, LMA not panning out.

    McDyess is really the last one I can think of, Horry as well.

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    could be that or we give PAFTO possibly to much credit... As far as going out and getting free agents.. In the past 10 seasons who many good free agents have they went out and got & it worked out successfully?.. RJ - NO , 2nd coming of SJAX not much, LMA not panning out.

    McDyess is really the last one I can think of, Horry as well.
    Wait, you think acquiring McDyess has worked successfully?

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    could be that or we give PAFTO possibly to much credit... As far as going out and getting free agents.. In the past 10 seasons who many good free agents have they went out and got & it worked out successfully?.. RJ - NO , 2nd coming of SJAX not much, LMA not panning out.

    McDyess is really the last one I can think of, Horry as well.
    Gotta count Boris as a big success despite his last season here. Several one and/or two year rentals - Marco and Gary Neal, for example.

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    could be that or we give PAFTO possibly to much credit... As far as going out and getting free agents.. In the past 10 seasons who many good free agents have they went out and got & it worked out successfully?.. RJ - NO , 2nd coming of SJAX not much, LMA not panning out.

    McDyess is really the last one I can think of, Horry as well.
    RJ was actually a trade with Milwaukee. And while there is turmoil with LMA right now the Spurs have won more games, 128, during the regular season than any other 2 year stretch in their history. The standard of success only being championships is a bar that very few FA in the NBA can hurdle. I agree LMA is too thin-skinned, but when you have someone play a certain role for 2 years, then ask him to play another way in the WCF with 2 of the other best performers out of the line up you can't be surprised that he is not successful. Especially someone who is at his best when a penetrating PG sets him up and you now have a rookie trying to feed him or an undersized SG playing PG. That is a formula for failure, but unfortunately that's what was available. The Spurs will be fine. I fully expect them to make the WCF again. LMA will have his best season with the Spurs. If you will recall he wanted out of Portland, but did not cause any problems. He had one of his best seasons. By December this board will be singing his praises. A little perspective is sorely needed.

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    Gotta count Boris as a big success despite his last season here. Several one and/or two year rentals - Marco and Gary Neal, for example.
    Agreed Boris and those mentioned were good pick up's for sure.

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    Please tell me this isnt how we will start next season...did i miss something??

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    the FA signing period hasnt even begun. calm your s

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    Please tell me this isnt how we will start next season...did i miss something??
    Not being a paranoid?

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    Be patient grasshoppa!!

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    Calm down...we're signing Jeff Ayres and giving him a max contract.

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    You heard the PATFO suckers, free agency hasn't started yet, even though it's already over for all intents and purposes for any player besides JAG scrubs.

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    Please tell me this isnt how we will start next season...did i miss something??
    no one can sign yet

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    no one can sign yet
    Who do they have in the pipeline other than drama queen?

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    We are going to resign Dedmon and Lee for Vet minimum and maybe bring back Baynes or Splitter.
    Was hoping to sign Omri Casspi to one year deal for Vet Min but instead that happen for Golden State.
    I don't think Simmons is worth 9 mil a year, too much money too fast, should be half that.

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    This team isn't old enough. We need some savvy vets to come in and shake things up. Jet Terry or Vince Carter would be great pickups.

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    This team isn't old enough. We need some savvy vets to come in and shake things up. Jet Terry or Vince Carter would be great pickups.
    I agree that Vince Carter would be helpful because he can still shoot but I would like him only if Manu doesn't come back because having him and Manu is redundant because they both are not going to play a lot of minutes. Rather use just one roster spot then two on limited minute players.

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    I agree that Vince Carter would be helpful because he can still shoot but I would like him only if Manu doesn't come back because having him and Manu is redundant because they both are not going to play a lot of minutes. Rather use just one roster spot then two on limited minute players.
    Guess I should've blue'd the font.

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    I agree that Vince Carter would be helpful because he can still shoot but I would like him only if Manu doesn't come back because having him and Manu is redundant because they both are not going to play a lot of minutes. Rather use just one roster spot then two on limited minute players.

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    Guess I should've blue'd the font.

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    Calm down...we're signing Jeff Ayres and giving him a max contract.
    I heard he has working on that catching the ball thing!

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    the FA signing period hasnt even begun. calm your s

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    This team isn't old enough. We need some savvy vets to come in and shake things up. Jet Terry or Vince Carter would be great pickups.
    I believe Richard Jefferson is available.

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    Yes - 4 days in to free agency and that's all that has happened.

    CP3 never hit the market, Indiana gave Paul George away to OKC, Kyle Lowry stayed in Toronto for ridiculous money and Blake Griffith did the same in LA. Iguodala stayed with his same team, George Hill left Utah for Sacramento & Hayward bolted to Boston. Millsap went to Denver where he is now making more money than anyone on the Spurs roster.

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    Yes - 4 days in to free agency and that's all that has happened.

    CP3 never hit the market, Indiana gave Paul George away to OKC, Kyle Lowry stayed in Toronto for ridiculous money and Blake Griffith did the same in LA. Iguodala stayed with his same team, George Hill left Utah for Sacramento & Hayward bolted to Boston. Millsap went to Denver where he is now making more money than anyone on the Spurs roster.
    And there was a timvp sighting! What a time to be alive...

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    We are going to resign Dedmon and Lee for Vet minimum and maybe bring back Baynes or Splitter.
    Was hoping to sign Omri Casspi to one year deal for Vet Min but instead that happen for Golden State.
    I don't think Simmons is worth 9 mil a year, too much money too fast, should be half that.
    Omri Casspi? Are you Jewish? I don't see the appeal. He hasn't amounted to much after all the hype years ago.

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