I am officially DONE with PATFO.

[vy65]

Okay, go back to the 90's baby. This brain-trust actually at least cares and thinks.
That was... .

Caring and thinking doesn't immunize them from criticism. Caring and thinking are their jobs. This ain't North Korea yet buddy, and having high expectations gets shot done.

[tonight...you]

No. You see, the issue is that it doesn't seem like they're thinking very much right now. Again, last year was much better as we had more favorable matchups and the path to the Finals was conceivable. Not so much this year. I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable betting that the Spurs beat OKC or HOU in the playoffs, let alone GS...

It sure seems. Okay. Go off ad infinitum them.

Why not? This is the age of expressing ourselves without filter through many means, without any inside info, or educated , because none of you even have a clue how to run a picnic, much less an NBA team. Even before any player can be signed after all. Go for it!

[DPG21920]

some of y'all are too much. there's numerous teams without even 1 le in their history. GS has assembled a team virtually unbeatable by any other current team in the league, and y'all are ing because spurs arent in the finals every year?

obviously we all want to win a le. i think some of you really underestimate what the spurs FO is trying to do. just because you don't hear their guys leaking every rumor to the press doesnt mean they arent doing anything. and realistically, what could they really do to put themselves on the level of GS aside from singing LeBron/Westbrook/etc? besides, free agents havent even been able to officially sign yet, there are over 100 free agents who havent even agreed to a deal yet. Spurfan needs to calm the down and quit being spoiled and expecting instant gratification everytime you refresh ST....

and besides, anyone who thought the spurs were gonna flip their roster that just won 60, made the WCF, and was up 24 on the champs in the 3Q is either re ed or hasnt been following the team long tbh

Good post. I agree, but I also sympathize with Spurs fans who want to add to the team and are not happy that Mills was such a priority. Plus, watching HOU add talent & GS make aggressive smart moves is unnerving when SA has a lot of free agents they have not replaced (yet - they obviously will, but will they be better)?

I''m refraining from judging too much before I see what goes on. The big question for me is outside of trades, we know no "major" player is coming to SA this year. Is SA planning for 2018 to add another star or will the moves they make this year eat away at that?

[tonight...you]

Caring and thinking doesn't immunize them from criticism. Caring and thinking are their jobs. This ain't North Korea yet buddy, and having high expectations gets shot done.

Their's criticism and there's just trash talking when you don't know .
This team has been at the top for decades and maintained without Timmy.
You DO know there were several years that Timmy didn't win ?

[vy65]

Their's criticism and theirs just trash talking when you don't know .
This team has been at the top for decades and maintained without Timmy.
You DO know there were several years that Timmy didn't win ?

I agree that there's legit criticism and talking . The crux of my criticism against the FO is the Patty signing. To me, that signals them heading in an antiquated direction and failing to take a sober look at just how much of a dearth in talent this roster has.

Regardless of the years "Timmy didn't win " (curious to hear about those), do you honestly believe this front office has never made a mistake? That they're totallly beyond reproach? Because I think you have to believe that is the case in order to buy into the spoiled narrative.

[tonight...you]

I agree that there's legit criticism and talking . The crux of my criticism against the FO is the Patty signing. To me, that signals them heading in an antiquated direction and failing to take a sober look at just how much of a dearth in talent this roster has.

Regardless of the years "Timmy didn't win " (curious to hear about those), do you honestly believe this front office has never made a mistake? That they're totallly beyond reproach? Because I think you have to believe that is the case in order to buy into the spoiled narrative.

Of course they do! But they've also been in one of THE WORST situations in the NBA for many, many years:
Undesirable location.
One of the smallest markets in the league, i.e.: limited endorsements and smaller endorsement contracts= less money and exposure.
A team that never won til '99 and nobody cared when they did win. Phil Jackson made sure of that.
Now they have THE most respected coach in the league and one of the most respected franchises in the league, but that doesn't eliminate those hurdles I already mentioned and those are hurdles that still have to be contended by this FO.

I've watched this team since '87. I've seen the difference in how they are run and it is absolutely night and day, from the old days with our poor Admiral trying to win with his best running mate being Sean Elliott (most years) and nothing else at all, with a Dantoni-style coach running things. To a coach that preaches Defense and trying to put his players in positions to succeed.

Winning it all is so very hard. And they got closer than only 2 teams last year. D.Rob only got top the WCF once before Pop. Only once. And he was a generational talent.
You want to talk about wasting a player's prime...

[tonight...you]

I agree that there's legit criticism and talking . The crux of my criticism against the FO is the Patty signing. To me, that signals them heading in an antiquated direction and failing to take a sober look at just how much of a dearth in talent this roster has.

Regardless of the years "Timmy didn't win " (curious to hear about those), do you honestly believe this front office has never made a mistake? That they're totallly beyond reproach? Because I think you have to believe that is the case in order to buy into the spoiled narrative.

I remember succinctly, when Duncan got drafted, a prominent radio host said: San Antonio Spurs drafted Tim Duncan #1. We'll never hear from him again.

True ing , and that was every- ing-one thought of San Antonio at the time.

[vy65]

Of course they do! But they've also been in one of THE WORST situations in the NBA for many, many years:
Undesirable location.
One of the smallest markets in the league, i.e.: limited endorsements and smaller endorsement contracts= less money and exposure.
A team that never won til '99 and nobody cared when they did win. Phil Jackson made sure of that.
Now they have THE most respected coach in the league and one of the most respected franchises in the league, but that doesn't eliminate those hurdles I already mentioned and those are hurdles that still have to be contended by this FO.

I've watched this team since '87. I've seen the difference in how they are run and it is absolutely night and day, from the old days with our poor Admiral trying to win with his best running mate being Sean Elliott (most years) and nothing else at all, with a Dantoni-style coach running things. To a coach that preaches Defense and trying to put his players in positions to succeed.

Winning it all is so very hard. And they got closer than only 2 teams last year. D.Rob only got top the WCF once before Pop. Only once. And he was a generational talent.
You want to talk about wasting a player's prime...

I remember succinctly, when Duncan got drafted, a prominent radio host said: San Antonio Spurs drafted Tim Duncan #1. We'll never hear from him again.

True ing , and that was every- ing-one thought of San Antonio at the time.

That the franchise has come a long way doesn't make those who criticize their moves spoiled. Should we enjoy the success of the past, considering where this franchise once was? Yes, of course. Should we acknowledge that this franchise has done a lot with a little? Absolutely. But acknowledging those facts doesn't mean that when the franchise does stupid , we shut our mouths. That's a pretty totalitarian approach to thinking about how the FO operates.

I don't believe in the bigotry of low expectations. This franchise has an MVP candidate and ostensibly one of the best FOs in the league. Criticizing them for not living up to expectations isn't a sign of being spoiled -- it's holding the FO accountable because we all know they can and/or should do better.

[tonight...you]

That the franchise has come a long way doesn't make those who criticize their moves spoiled. Should we enjoy the success of the past, considering where this franchise once was? Yes, of course. Should we acknowledge that this franchise has done a lot with a little? Absolutely. But acknowledging those facts doesn't mean that when the franchise does stupid , we shut our mouths. That's a pretty totalitarian approach to thinking about how the FO operates.

I don't believe in the bigotry of low expectations. This franchise has an MVP candidate and ostensibly one of the best FOs in the league. Criticizing them for not living up to expectations isn't a sign of being spoiled -- it's holding the FO accountable because we all know they can and/or should do better.

Okay. Have an extremely good day homie.
I know the team has serious limitations. You have decided to not acknowledge them and have judged the FO accordingly.
I don't say they aren't infallible, but that they are working with a weighted problem- and they are trying to do the best they can.

To you and many others- there is no way San Antonio should not succeed, given the many advantages given to other teams that they don't have.
No excuse!

[I. Hustle]

That the franchise has come a long way doesn't make those who criticize their moves spoiled. Should we enjoy the success of the past, considering where this franchise once was? Yes, of course. Should we acknowledge that this franchise has done a lot with a little? Absolutely. But acknowledging those facts doesn't mean that when the franchise does stupid , we shut our mouths. That's a pretty totalitarian approach to thinking about how the FO operates.

I don't believe in the bigotry of low expectations. This franchise has an MVP candidate and ostensibly one of the best FOs in the league. Criticizing them for not living up to expectations isn't a sign of being spoiled -- it's holding the FO accountable because we all know they can and/or should do better.

Okay. Have an extremely good day homie.
I know the team has serious limitations. You have decided to not acknowledge them and have judged the FO accordingly.
I don't say they aren't infallible, but that they are working with a weighted problem- and they are trying to do the best they can.

To you and many others- there is no way San Antonio should not succeed, given the many advantages given to other teams that they don't have.
No excuse!

These dudes are taking to heart LOL

[tonight...you]

These dudes are taking to heart LOL

True that. Whatever'ss whatevs.
I'm not going to be changing minds, that's for sure, but I could be planting seeds...

[TheGreatYacht]

Incredible. Sam Presti, the guy who discovered Tony Parker, lost Kevin Durant and acquired Paul George and Melo via traded FOR

Meanwhile our drunk replaced Tim Duncan with Joffrey Leauvergne

[TheGreatYacht]

I would've bumped your Sam Presti thread, apalisoc_9 but got PATFO fluffers mod deleted it

[SPURt]

Incredible. Sam Presti, the guy who discovered Tony Parker, lost Kevin Durant and acquired Paul George and Melo via traded FOR

Meanwhile our drunk replaced Tim Duncan with Joffrey Leauvergne

All of this. this offseason.

[davi78239]

I had said we'd be a 4th seed before Melo to OKC now we really a 4 seed at best. We better hope for chemistry issues with these teams cause that's our best bet now tbh...

[TheGreatYacht]

When the players hear about all the moves this offseason

[exstatic]

Incredible. Sam Presti, the guy who discovered Tony Parker, lost Kevin Durant and acquired Paul George and Melo via traded FOR

Meanwhile our drunk replaced Tim Duncan with Joffrey Leauvergne

Don't forget "traded Harden for ".

So, presti lost two All NBA player for essentially nothing, and got two disgruntled one year rentals. Melo
Needs the ball MORE than Westbrook does, which means PG will never touch the rock. Not the way to entice him to stay. He's a Laker next year, for sure.

[TheGreatYacht]

Don't forget "traded Harden for ".

So, presti lost two All NBA player for essentially nothing, and got two disgruntled one year rentals. Melo
Needs the ball MORE than Westbrook does, which means PG will never touch the rock. Not the way to entice him to stay. He's a Laker next year, for sure.

Don't forget, traded Harden "because his cheap front office couldn't pay him"

Presti lost both players with no fault of his. Durant pulled the pussiest move of all time, and one no one saw coming. Presti built a pretty good team that year, one that retired Timmy, and had a 3-1 lead on GS until Durant quit. The fact you can't give props to him after recovering from all the he got thrown at tells me all I need to know. Keep defending PATFO signing washed up s bro

[Kool Bob Love]

The spurs are officially garbage.

[JFK]

Don't forget, traded Harden "because his cheap front office couldn't pay him"

Presti lost both players with no fault of his. Durant pulled the pussiest move of all time, and one no one saw coming. Presti built a pretty good team that year, one that retired Timmy, and had a 3-1 lead on GS until Durant quit. The fact you can't give props to him after recovering from all the he got thrown at tells me all I need to know. Keep defending PATFO signing washed up s bro

All of this.

Just wait until they extend Parker next year. It isn't Tony's fault and I love Tony. Buford lol. Hey Melo isn't our "culture"

[NASpurs]

Don't forget, traded Harden "because his cheap front office couldn't pay him"

Presti lost both players with no fault of his. Durant pulled the pussiest move of all time, and one no one saw coming. Presti built a pretty good team that year, one that retired Timmy, and had a 3-1 lead on GS until Durant quit. The fact you can't give props to him after recovering from all the he got thrown at tells me all I need to know. Keep defending PATFO signing washed up s bro

North Korea nukes

[SuperCam]

WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS BIG 3

Curry/Durpussy/Draymond
CP3/harden/Ariza
BrookVP/PG13/Melo
Griffin/Jordan/Beverly
Butler/Towns/Wiggins
Davis/Cousins/Holiday
Jokic/Sap/Harris
Lillard/McCollum/Nurkic
Conley/Gasol/Parsons

[Atl Spur]

The spurs are officially garbage.

Please book mark this dudes comment; no dic* riding later homie😉

[TimDunkem]

WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS BIG 3

Curry/Durpussy/Draymond
CP3/harden/Ariza
BrookVP/PG13/Melo
Griffin/Jordan/Beverly
Butler/Towns/Wiggins
Davis/Cousins/Holiday
Jokic/Sap/Harris
Lillard/McCollum/Nurkic
Conley/Gasol/Parsons

Kawhi/40 year old Manu/Fathead

[DeRozan m8]

Just checking in to say PATFO....their egos have finally gotten the better of them.

Kawhi will be out of here asap.

We will never recover.

It's been a good ride