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I remember in his 1st or 2nd year, he and Kobe were chasing the same loose ball. Parker beat Kobe significantly and then beat him down court for a layup. It was amazing given Kobe's speed and length.
I'm guessing you meant to say he was the fattest player in the league.
I remember in his 1st or 2nd year, he and Kobe were chasing the same loose ball. Parker beat Kobe significantly and then beat him down court for a layup. It was amazing given Kobe's speed and length.
No, I think that was ex-Clipper John "Hot Plate" Williams.
I'm not saying Murray is going to be close to Parker. But Parker coming into the NBA a lot more experience and probably a lot more games under his belt.
And had better physical tools. All Murray has is length. He might have vertical too.
Right. I don't think it's fair to compare the two. I would like to see Murray work on his handles like Parker obviously did early on. While he's not Parker, he does seem very quick.
I don't know that he has vertical or explosiveness as all of his finish attempts are runners.
and he has size/taller
but he doesn't have the same skill that is for sure.
the thing is if he acquires skill, he will definitely look like a steal, but if he doesn't acquire it? It's going to get ugly. Guys are going nuts here like he already has added the skill and he hasn't.
He's too young to be proclaiming anything, either on the all star or bust level. He is still improving so basically we don't know yet. At least that is what I am telling myself.
He has a very quick first step and on top of that long strides.
In Murray's defense, he compares reasonably well with TP, although TP was better at age 19.
Murray has quicker hands than TP and obviously is bigger (or at least taller).
They both penetrate very well although TP gets to the rim and, therefore, finishes better, whereas Murray penetrates but can't get to the rim because he can't go under bigs the way TP can -- therefore he ends up shooting wild high off the glass bank shots.
I think this can be corrected but it's no certainty that it will be -- if not, it could greatly inhibit Murray as an NBA player. If Murray learns to consistently finish, the sky is the limit.
Murray's a better passer than TP (and TP is a very good passer). He has much greater defensive potential than TP.
Murray's abysmal finishing seems to have gotten into his head. He tends to get discouraged which he'll have to conquer. People complain that Murray is playing "hero ball" but I think the bigger problem for him is the opposite, he's become too hesitant -- he's letting his poor finishing affect his confidence. As a result, he sometimes stands stationary on the perimeter before either passing or driving (or even beginning to dribble). That he cannot do if he wishes to be succeed.
All in all, I'd say Murray has the potential to be a plus point guard in the NBA but it is by no means a certainty.
Parker has the full arsenal in the paint, outstanding footwork with scoop shots, step throughs, spin moves, etc. That, his speed, the fact he can get into the defenders body and that he has/had a quick, compact floater account for his success in the paint. Murray doesn't have those skills developed. He relies on this high raindrop floater which looks cool when it goes in just doesn't go in with nearly enough reliability.
Porker had an horrendous shooting % and played with Prime Duncan and Ginobili Bowen Horry, as I said before, you cant have a daily opinion on a player, where was you when Murray was dropping 24 points during regular season? His arsenal in the paint was lame, I remember 2011 and 2012.
Why there was a Speedy Claxton saving the day?
Jonathon Simmons had pretty ty SL games too, and look how he played in the playoffs.
Naw, Murray is a turnover machine. Parker never was. Parker was a great finisher, but a lot of that was his elite speed. Murray isn't nearly as fast and he isn't explosive near the rim. Also, Parker always had good handles, though that was aided by being shorter and faster such that it's hard to steal from him. Murray's wingspan helps him on defense and rebounding, but seems to hurt dribbling against smaller guards that can get into him.
WTH? Parker consistently led all guards and was like top 5 in the entire NBA in FG % in his prime. He ranks historically among the best guards in FG%. Murray had a 24 point game. Clap. Lots of mediocre talents do that during the regular season. Call me when he averages 20 points. Just stop. Parker is a HOF. Murray is not on his level.
Last edited by cd98; 07-06-2017 at 02:41 PM.
Top 5? You had lots of great players during that era and you think he was top 5? Nowitsky Garnett, Duncan, Nash, Kidd, Arenas, Allen, Miller, TMac, Paul Pierce, Lebron, CP3, Wade, Fatmelo and he was top 5?
You should not be talking about regular season when Porkerīs weakest link is poor playoff performances.
Top 5 in shooting percentage.
You think he was better than those in shooting %?
Thats impossible, and as you said lots of mediocre talents can do that during RS, but in the playoffs he had Speedy Claxton,
Game 1 vs 2002 LAL 11 points on 5/12
Game 2 vs 2002 LAL 5 points on 2/8
Game 4 vs 2002 LAL 15 points on 5/14
Game 5 vs 2002 LAL 14 points on 6/15
Game 4 vs 2003 Nets 3 points on 1/12
Game 6 vs 2003 Nets 4 points on 2/6
Game 6 vs 2004 LAL 9 points on 4/18
Game 7 vs 2005 DET 8 points on 3/11
Game 6 vs 2006 DAL 8 points on 3/15
As you can see there is a pattern when it matters, specially during those rook years.
Typical dumb logic hand picking games with a long career like he's had. Historically, he is one of the best percentage scoring guards in NBA history. But keep comparing him to a player that should spend next year in the D League.
Where is Parker's 0-10 in summer league?
1/12 in the games that matter.
He's won a finals MVP in games that matter. Him, Kawhi, and Duncan are the only Spurs. Murray isn't on that list.1/12 in the games that matter.
Don't at Murray this early at the stage then got.
Boobie.
Murray couldn't own D league. Bobbie was at least an NBA Player. Don't compare him to Parker, he isn't on that level.Don't at Murray this early at the stage then got.
Boobie.
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