Blossomgame, yes. I still don't think Murray gets yanked unless he continues to suck come the start of the season...but it's not impossible that White earns his spot in the rotation if he shows to be the more steady player.
Keep in mind that even Tim Duncan didn't look great in his summer league.
I think part of the problem with Murray is that he is trying to be a facilitator, which is much harder to do with a summer league team full of stiffs running no identifiable system than it would be with NBA-level talent running the Spurs sets.
Are we interested in improving at all?
Maybe the FO knows that DeJounte will turn into Kawhi 2.0, Derrick White becomes a reliable backup, Simmons becomes Peak Ginobili, Aldridge regains his allstar form and Mills + Parker expiring becomes a very good trade asset for us to get a 3rd or 4th Allstar.
We can only hope to be all wrong.
Simmons is already better than Peak Manure
"Who has the bigger balls" argument coming up, stay tuned fellas.
Yep. That team is going to be a mess. I could have maybe seen Choke-P and Frauden finding a way to make it work together, but add in that ballhog Melo to play for a coach he hates and got fired in NY and it's a recipe for disaster.
Melo, Harden and CP3 -- head case heaven.
That would all but guarantee Lebron is headed that way
I was calling from the start for the Spurs to sign Teodosic. I said it would take 2/$16M, and it's pretty clear that would have been more than enough to get it done. They could have waived Tony, stretched, and cleared $10M this season - enough to pay Teo, and have a couple of million left over to add to the hunt for another player. Actually, $4.5M difference between that and signing Mills to the contract they gave him. That's $4.5M in addition to whatever they have right now to pursue additions.
And there's no hindsight there. I said all of that from almost the time the last regular season was over. Teo is probably as good a defender as Mills, and MUCH better PG. (Most say he was the best PG in Europe - definitely one of the top 3.) With Murray and now White, they would have been good enough at PG from the season opener, and they could have focused on shoring up elsewhere.
SA was one place Teodosic wanted to come. Last year Bourousis wanted to come to SA. This team could be a whole lot better than it is. They're clinging onto the husks of the old Big 3. Admirable, but it doesn't make them the best team they could have been.
Insubordinate...and churlish!
Damn this scrub just got paid 30 million and he tips 14 bucks? Guess he was asserting his will on that check
On reddit he said he bought a bottle with no service. Literally all he did. I wouldn't mind. 2 minutes of work.
Understandable if that's the case. The article makes it sound like it was 12 of them ordering $500 worth of drinks. #fakenews
Yes, and I wanted Lowry (for $100M/4) then pivoted to Teague. I even said in the Teodosic thread that Apa made a few weeks ago that I would have been interested in Teodosic for the MLE. So him for what he got seems like a great deal. And I wish the team hadn't committed so many spots to PG, or else I would have wanted him even after Patty was signed. I don't think were hindsighting at all wanting Teodosic. But if you were to say that PATFO should have known Teodosic was going to make so little, I would have not believed you.
I don't think anyone can read my post history and think I am in favor of keeping Parker and Manu. I caught flak from both of those "churches" over how adamant I have been about moving on. I agree with you that the team should have and could have improved beyond where they are had PATFO been willing to make tough decisions. And it certainly hasn't sat well with me that Green and LMA were being shopped while Parker remained untouchable. But I understand that in scenarios like we're seeing now, it probably doesn't make sense to pay to move Tony anymore. It's still worth it to let Manu walk, though.
Bull . I said all season that Hill would end up in the high teens - $20M, just like I said Mills would be back for close to what he got. PG and C are the most saturated positions in the league and there's not as much cap space as the 2 previous off seasons. Teams not named Spurs also seem to have learned from rushing to sign role players at 12:01 am on July 1st and setting the market, as opposed to waiting.
They should have known they were not going to be shut out from getting a high end backup to low end starter and they should have been comfortable enough with multiple options instead of prioritizing their precious culture.
You can spin all you want, the bottom line is they blew it and will be hard pressed to win so much as a single round next season. The Clippers, they of the supposedly incompetent front office and next to no assets and flexibility, managed to lose a clear top 10 player and still might be better.
Heh. Funny how the whole story changes things. Fourteen bucks to hand over a bottle and they .
NY bout to drop the big $$$$ for Juice
I'm not arguing any of that other crap. That's between you two. But I knew what Teo was getting offered to stay. PATFO should have too.
He was being offered the equivalent of $12 Million a season for six seasons. That's six times the guaranteed money as he got from LAC. I could see PAFTO balking at matching his CSKA offer if they weren't entire convinced he was going to translate well.
whats does PATFO mean? I see it in every thread
Nope. Sorry, I don't know where that came from, but no. And I said $8M per for a reason.
Pop And The Front Office
Whew, I thought this would read 3 years at 10 million.
Penis Attacking Triflin' Females Organization
And I guess you ended up being right. It wasn't even clear today, though, that Teodosic was going to take that little. I'm actually surprised he did, but I guess he's really betting on himself.
Teams agree with players at 12:01 all the time. That's not new when it comes to teams with their own players, because they can legally negotiate with them. I will give you that you have been saying that Hill was a $20ish-Million man this off-season. If the Spurs wanted him back, then they could have gotten him. Though at the same time, I have yet to figure out what they did want, if it were Paul or bust or if guys like Hayward rejected even having a meeting with them. I do think they thought that Mills and whomever they wanted for a combined $38-40M in cap space was better than Hill and another $20-Million player, though.
Teodosic is the first player who projects to be as good or better than Patty who's gone for less in cap space than Mills' hold took up. It took five days for the market to drop this low, and now it's Rose and an abyss at PG.They should have known they were not going to be shut out from getting a high end backup to low end starter and they should have been comfortable enough with multiple options instead of prioritizing their precious culture.
Heh, the Spurs will be fine. They're not losing to any of these guys in the first round unless Kawhi gets hurt.You can spin all you want, the bottom line is they blew it and will be hard pressed to win so much as a single round next season. The Clippers, they of the supposedly incompetent front office and next to no assets and flexibility, managed to lose a clear top 10 player and still might be better.
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