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Thanks, exactly. Not sure what the implications are on the luxury tax, but players can be called up for 45 days per season and get prorated NBA minimum contracts for those days.
It's getting a little sensitive in here race wise.
Palangi stirring the pot and getting reactions.
Thanks, exactly. Not sure what the implications are on the luxury tax, but players can be called up for 45 days per season and get prorated NBA minimum contracts for those days.
Yes at the deal he was offered I liked him.
Originally I wanted the Spurs to make a FA splash... once they decided to bring the same basic crew back I wanted him back. I much prefer to pay him than Mills personally.
The thing is he's still shopping himself and Gay became available meantime... Gay could have become a player that was gone like so many others so far, while the Spurs waited on the Simmons thing to be settled. But now that he's here, I don't see the JSimms signing as that essential.. maybe Spurs taking that leverage from JSimms forcing their hand into an extravagant deal. No to extravagant deals IMO. Simmons ballon payment on any Arenas matches offer was going to coincide with Kawhis supermax, unless he accepts Spurs offer he's gone IMO.
I remember that - good call. I think that may very well be the case. My guess is that Hanga is waiting to hear about Manu so he can make his decision too.
Old ing rookie. Well, Hanga isn't that much younger than Manu so I can see why has a sense of urgency.
It's pretty easy to see tbh..
White isn't ready. He'll be in Austin. (Spurs should have drafted Bell)
Forbes is not a two guard either. Him and Mills off bench at 1 and 2 would be a nightmare defensively. I thought Forbes has looked really solid as a point guard in SL games so far btw.
I'd put Forbes as the 4th PG over 2nd SG.
DJ/ Mills/ TP/ Forbes/ White
Green/ Simmons/ Manu or Hanga/ White
Kawhi/ Simmons/ Anderson
Gay/ Bertans/ Anderson
LMA / Pau/ Lee or Splitter ( whichever they sign)
Blossomgame two way contract
One other.
** If Manu is back, he's the SG off the bench and Simmons moves to SF.
If Manu retires, then Simmons is the SG off the bench, and Hanga competes w/ Kyle for minutes at the back up SF.
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I hope Simmons walks now tbh. How many ball dominant ISO guys can you have, especially one who's only had 1 good playoff run.
I have a feeling PATFO could have something else up cooked up in the wake of this signing.
Dislike that very much but not going to argue. We shall see what happens.
What would you rather see from this day forward? (Not arguing) lol.
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More and more, I don't think the crazy offer sheet is out there for Simmons. Money is drying up, and unlike other RFAs he's a bit older and may have the "taint" of the Spurs system attached to him (benefiting from their system), rightly or wrongly. We saw how Neal, Boban and to a lesser extent Baynes panned out.
Simmons had a really bad regular season and it may be tough for GMs to risk things on a nice playoff run when the regular season points to a player that fell out of the rotation at times and shot poorly.
I'd love for this to be the case and for Simmons to lock up a deal for $7 million or less AAV for the next three years with a PO after two. Alternative would be a prove it one year deal (QO) and $1 million and change guaranteed. He's going to value the long term security.
I probably don't like LMA and Gay together. Not much that can be argued about that bc well just have to see what Pop does with them. Also why so many fricking PGs that have no chance in to play? That one has been discussed way too much. And I still tend to think JSimms won't be back but since that's just a gut feeling not much I can argue about that.
Agree. But that player had to be a playmaker with some kind of penetrating ability, not another iso-forward.
If people criticized Spurs' lack of ball-movement/unbalanced roster last season, just wait to watch Kawhi, Gay, and LMA together on court...
I saw Ilyasova being mentioned, always liked that he can shoot but still rebound decently. He also led the league in charges drawn last (regular) season with a total of 36.
Spurs would be worse rolling with White/Forbes as the back up SGs. They'd get nuked on the wing in the NBA. Worse than the time Spurs got nuked when they ran Mason/Hill on the wing.
You'll see 3 PGs w/ one developing in Austin ( probably White) until TP gets back. Then Forbes will then probably join White.
LMA is probably not too thrilled about getting his touches reduced. We'll see how that plays out.
But considering the UFA market and realistic options to fit under that salary threshold after the Patty signing, I don't think Spurs could do better. Gay has talent and talent where the Spurs need it, it allows them to be more versatile on both ends vs. the best teams that play that style. It's a low risk, high reward move that I'm thrilled they made considering the alternative options.
More than any of the taint his problem is that he can't really shoot ... he's not going to get the biggest deal with that flaw.... but he may be waiting on other teams first options to pan out or not. Brooklyn and NY may not get their guys and he may also want more years guaranteed than Spurs offered originally.
Appreciate the response but we shall see. Not going to argue... I am too tired..
I wasn't arguing.
I don't think Kyle is a 5th wing or 5th big in your scenarios. IMO he's developed and deserving of a rotation spot. I think the same of Bertans but more than Kyle Bertans needs to be set up and plays off other ppl better. He might be better in certain lineups. He doesn't need touches like Gay. I am just too tired to articulate well what I want to say in this area frankly.. but you will disagree with any point made about Kyle and I a again too tired t even bring it up. I ddt like your initial lineups but a lot of that is fluid. Simmons, Manu and Hanga we don't know about.I wasn't arguing.
I have a hard time believing Spurs go into next season w/ White/Anderson/Forbes as their back up wings.
I don't see a scenario where Kyle can be anything more than the 4th big or wing.
He'll have to beat out Bertans to get 4th big spot.
As for the wings. He should hope Manu retires, so he competes w/ Hanga for minutes and not Simmons (if Simmons is re-signed).
If Manu retires, Simmons is the back up SG then Kyle/Hanga compete for limited minutes behind Kawhi.
If Manu is back, Simmons competes w/ Kyle for minutes at SF.
Doesn't make sense for me that Simmons competes with anyone if he's back he's going to have his spot. Will have to look at this again tomorrow to make any additional comments.
He was brought on as an Iso . We had ball movement and a bunch of scared shooters. Rudy gay isnt afraid of that. It's actually his speciality. I'm sure he will be more team oriented on a 60 win team, but he was definitely brought on to give kawhi a break. Once kawhi went out, the offense usually did. Need someone who draws defense attention on the bench outside of mills. Rudy does that. He fits fine with the second unit as a lead scorer. They haven't had one in a long while.
They don't need more of what they have, which was passers and role players. They needed a legitimate sixth man. He gets the green light with the second unit and I think spurs will be better for it.
Its weird reading all these Iso comments. Just because they can score one on one doesn't make them Iso only players. It's a benefit or a luxury to have. Spurs issue against gsw was no one could take advantage of an Iso . Now people are complaining about getting what the spurs needed most..
It's like they don't acknowledge tge spurs were the second best team in the NBA last year and only the wolves made big enough moves to really change things. Wont know who they are til next year.
Spurs are better at this point, if they retain who they want going forward. Being the second best team in the league and getting better, is hard to come by when max players are taking discounts in the prime to stack their team on the most lopsided team in history.
Spurs are doing great.
Any updates on Tiago Splitter? Would love to have him back.
For the LLE? Sure.
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