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    On the one hand, he's played too well and has too clearly defined a role to be cut. On the other hand, they need another big and short of Ginobili or Simmons not returning, don't have a spot. Also, re-signing Mills and to a lesser extent drafting White more than likely blocks his path to ever becoming a rotation player . . . all the more reason why doing both of those things was unnecessary.
    I suspect we end up with Joff-Pau-LMA-Bertans as the only big players. Probably a slight change in structure. Still start big, but play small ball 4 the rest of the way.

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    I agree Murray should play a lot of SG. Make him shoot all year long like he's Bradley Beal.
    Not this year, unless you want to see abject failure...
    This kid doesn't have an NBA shot right now. You want that? You tell him that this year and make him focus with Chip and see the progress next year.

    Pushing him out there now, with a terrible shot, and telling him to shoot like you have no conscience... Recipe for losses and risk losing his confidence for good.

    I respectfully disagree.

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    Ok your right totally. But he knows how to separate on the dribble for an open shot. If you watch his mixtapes on Youtube, and he can shoot a little. All I see him do now a days is drive to the basket. Wish he would develop that Tony midrange pull-up this offseason.

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    Ok your right totally. But he knows how to separate on the dribble for an open shot. If you watch his mixtapes on Youtube, and he can shoot a little. All I see him do now a days is drive to the basket. Wish he would develop that Tony midrange pull-up this offseason.
    True. He has elite separation skills. It's what he does once he's got that opportunity: Shoot? He sucks at shooting right now. Pass? He's not familiar enough with the team yet (this is especially true with the Summer team). So he goes, generally for the floater.
    I actually like his floater because he can get it off at anytime over anyone and that is a talent. He really needs some good instruction (and I would advise him to go to the guy on his team who has one of THE BEST floaters in NBA history on advice and techniques to practice) on that because you can see that's his natural instinct- so you better refine that to better than reliable.

    He's a strange case: He's a scrub with elite abilities. And he seems to want to excel. This is when I start to wish Chad Forcier was still a part of the staff... He knew how to develop players.

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    We've been talking about everybody, but him and he's been the one who's looked like he's worked on every part of his game and himself more than those we talk about.

    Damn fine work, I say. I respect that kind of work. I now want Forbes to go work out with Kawhi along with Dejounte.
    That kid has some good stuff going on. I still wish he was a couple inches taller though... And had better defensive instincts, but whatcha gonna do?

    Not every person out there is a Kawhi. That's why he's been #2 on the MVP list the last 2 years. Damn Spurs... you sho' be's lucky.

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    On the one hand, he's played too well and has too clearly defined a role to be cut. On the other hand, they need another big and short of Ginobili or Simmons not returning, don't have a spot. Also, re-signing Mills and to a lesser extent drafting White more than likely blocks his path to ever becoming a rotation player . . . all the more reason why doing both of those things was unnecessary.
    Had Tony Parker not got hurt they could have been more comfortable with letting Patty walk and letting all the young guys backup the point next season. What made the log jam was the fact that they drafted Derrick White. I heard one of the commentators in a spurs summer league game say that Utah dropped down in the draft to snag Tony Bradley and that could have very well been the pick the Spurs intended to make. Instead FO was forced to go BPA I guess.

    Either way if Forbes can show to have some talent the FO could use him as a trade piece at worst. I hate seeing the FO let players walk and watch them flourish somewhere else. See Jamychal Green.

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    So we got our American Ferrari? Or at least our high-reeving 2015-18 Flat-Plane Ford GT350?

    One thing for sure, aside from his game it's clearly Forbes has been working on his body. He looks bigger.
    Agreed, and it's not the Fathead type of bigger where he only gained baby fat and cranium width. Forbes looks cutter


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    Agreed, and it's not the Fathead type of bigger where he only gained baby fat and cranium width. Forbes looks cutter
    Another 35pt+ game and he's gonna be picked for random drug test.

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    I think now the only hope of Forbes getting regular rotation minutes is Manu retiring.

    If you start Patty/Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA
    You could put DJ/Forbes/Simmons/Anderson or Bertans/ Pau

    I agree with those who say you can't play Patty and Forbes together. But if Manu returns, White will be in Austin all year and Forbes will ride the pine the majority of the season.

    I prefer Bertans in the second unit for spacing. Anderson is really good imo but where will he fit. It's been the problem for a few years now. Anderson has seniority over Forbes so it will probably be DJ starting and Patty/Simmons/Anderson/Bertans/Pau playing the bench to start. And DJ starts. But a lot of the Spurs youth getting any real opportunity this year depends on if Manu retires.

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    I think now the only hope of Forbes getting regular rotation minutes is Manu retiring.

    If you start Patty/Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA
    You could put DJ/Forbes/Simmons/Anderson or Bertans/ Pau

    I agree with those who say you can't play Patty and Forbes together. But if Manu returns, White will be in Austin all year and Forbes will ride the pine the majority of the season.

    I prefer Bertans in the second unit for spacing. Anderson is really good imo but where will he fit. It's been the problem for a few years now. Anderson has seniority over Forbes so it will probably be DJ starting and Patty/Simmons/Anderson/Bertans/Pau playing the bench to start. And DJ starts. But a lot of the Spurs youth getting any real opportunity this year depends on if Manu retires.
    Man every time I see "start" and "Patty" in the same sentence:


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    Man every time I see "start" and "Patty" in the same sentence:


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    PG-Mills, Murray, Parker
    SG-Green, Forbes, White,
    SF-Kawhi,Anderson,Blossomgame
    PF-Gay, Bertans
    C-LMA, Joff

    That's the active depth chart IMO...Forbes/Murray will really be fighting for playing time when it's all said and done. Right now unexpectedly Forbes has taken that spot.

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    Bottom line you have to be able to play well as an individual but most importantly, you must be able to play well WITH KL. The summer league does not tell us anything bout this. Forbes is not going to the foul line 17 times in an NBA game with Leonard. It would be great if he could actually create and shoot consistently in an NBA game while taking pressure off of, and getting easy shots for, Leonard.

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    Bottom line you have to be able to play well as an individual but most importantly, you must be able to play well WITH KL. The summer league does not tell us anything bout this. Forbes is not going to the foul line 17 times in an NBA game with Leonard. It would be great if he could actually create and shoot consistently in an NBA game while taking pressure off of, and getting easy shots for, Leonard.
    Kyrie Forbes?

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    Kyrie Forbes would actually have the right to go to the line 17 times in an NBA game. And Lebron Leonard would then have to turn into a major distributor.

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    PG-Mills, Murray, Parker
    SG-Green, Forbes, White,
    SF-Kawhi,Anderson,Blossomgame
    PF-Gay, Bertans
    C-LMA, Joff

    That's the active depth chart IMO...Forbes/Murray will really be fighting for playing time when it's all said and done. Right now unexpectedly Forbes has taken that spot.

    Tbh, KA must be considered a full-time 4. With Simmons and Manu, we have a massive log jam at guards. It's possible that Simmons is our backup swing here in this situation and you probably don't have a better one available.

    Are we going full on small?

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    His (hopeful) continued success makes the patty signing look even worse.

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    Ppl are reading waaaay too much into summer league

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    Agreed, and it's not the Fathead type of bigger where he only gained baby fat and cranium width. Forbes looks cutter

    Curry like deltoids. Only now needs green light to start chucking it from midcourt!




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    Poor man's curry tbh

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    Ppl are reading waaaay too much into summer league
    Suck our s you got ass made negative Nancy!! Lets us have our hopes an dreams... We know it's summer league, but its spurs summer league!

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    Ppl are reading waaaay too much into summer league
    You're a meaner!

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    He just needs to do it in the Playoffs to be a Manu.

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