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    Forbes has been a pleasant surprise. If anything, it just makes the Mills deal look worse and worse.

    At least, at his age, Forbes actually has upside. We already know who the no-defense playing, no playmaking, choking, undersized SG Fatty Mills is.
    Or, hopefully, more tradeable...
    That happens right? Trades?

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    Or, hopefully, more tradeable...
    That happens right? Trades?
    I just don't see it, tbh. The Spurs need him for the HEB commericals.

    Dat culture.

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    I just don't see it, tbh. The Spurs need him for the HEB commericals.

    Dat culture.
    Dude... you just blew my mind. I wasn't even thinking of Timmy's bro and his HEB commercials.
    Props. Damn. I don't think I can go through any more origami/ready-to-heat HEB specials.

    I cook my own food!

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    Mills is the best origami artist on the team and lead towel waver. WE NEED HIM.

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    Mills is the best origami artist on the team and lead towel waver. WE NEED HIM.
    #JapaneseCulture?

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    #FastFoodCulture

    This is San Antonio after all.

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    #FastFoodCulture

    This is San Antonio after all.
    #FoodTruckCulture is now In baby.
    The new fast food and we think we're sophisticated because we have to get out of our car to order at an RV window.

    So Euro...

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    Or, hopefully, more tradeable...
    That happens right? Trades?
    By signing his 12:01 discounted deal with us, Patty made himself the next Spur that PATFO won't trade.

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    Was thinking this yesterday. Since they messed up re-signing Mills and to a lesser extent drafting White and have permanently blocked his path to a rotation spot, they should be looking to sell high and shopping him to mediocre and bad teams for an '18 2nd. Pretty sure it would be unprecedented for a non guaranteed player to become a trade asset on the strength of his Summer League play, but it's worth a shot.
    You don't trade away potential. What pop is going to do if Forbes is really this good is decrease Murray's minutes and make White a complete D-League player and Put the ball on Leonard more.

    It won't surprise me to see Leonard handle the ball as much as he did in the playoffs.

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    By signing his 12:01 discounted deal with us, Patty made himself the next Spur that PATFO won't trade.
    Damn... you may be right.

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    You don't trade away potential. What pop is going to do if Forbes is really this good is decrease Murray's minutes and make White a complete D-League player and Put the ball on Leonard more.

    It won't surprise me to see Leonard handle the ball as much as he did in the playoffs.
    Won't surprise you? It should be expected. Pop is searching for Kawhi's ceiling and he thinks it's Lebron-level.

    Old boy is going to have the ball in his hands like Harden last year. Watch that usage rate brother.

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    The green light was given.
    Here had 18 points at the half.... considering that its only 10 minute quarters!

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    Here had 18 points at the half.... considering that its only 10 minute quarters!
    Yup.. green light given.

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    That's impressive.... Specially when Spurs were telling Dijon to pass and are telling Bryn to be aggressive scoring. IMO, one cannot dismiss Dijon completely since he's so young, but Bryn is obviously a better offensive player. Against same level of compe ion Dijon couldn't score for the life of him. He's been benched bc either he's in trade talks and Spurs don't want to tank his value exposing what they surely already know... or they decided to feature Bryn bc they wanted to see where he's at and Dijon takes the ball away from his hands.

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    That's impressive.... Specially when Spurs were telling Dijon to pass and are telling Bryn to be aggressive scoring. IMO, one cannot dismiss Dijon completely since he's so young, but Bryn is obviously a better offensive player. Against same level of compe ion Dijon couldn't score for the life of him. He's been benched bc either he's in trade talks and Spurs don't want to tank his value exposing what they surely already know... or they decided to feature Bryn bc they wanted to see where he's at and Dijon takes the ball away from his hands.
    Reread the words you typed: They wanted Murray to play-make and Bryn to shoot. Was it a success? I wouldn't say that, but you can see what they wanted to go down and it happened. The results are irrelevant to what they wanted to try, but relevant to what they wanted to see.
    Sounds like Summer League to me.

    Who you think might be getting traded... not happening.
    Dispute me, but there is nothing to dispute until a trade happens.

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    I don't think it has much to do with a trade, though I guess it could be a move for an established guard like Beverly. But I doubt it. I think they want him to take the SL seriously, because they need him as either the starting PG or a key backup.

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    Reread the words you typed: They wanted Murray to play-make and Bryn to shoot. Was it a success? I wouldn't say that, but you can see what they wanted to go down and it happened. The results are irrelevant to what they wanted to try, but relevant to what they wanted to see.
    Sounds like Summer League to me.

    Who you think might be getting traded... not happening.
    Dispute me, but there is nothing to dispute until a trade happens.
    Oh sure. I am speculating.... it's really odd Dijon's been benched and barely played. That still has my head spinning...

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    Dejounte started in the Playoffs, not forbes. I think we know where Pop thinks both players are on the totem pole.

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    Oh sure. I am speculating.... it's really odd Dijon's been benched and barely played. That still has my head spinning...
    I understand, but I think I can help:
    Pop wanted to see growth from him.
    It was only a few weeks from the end of the season and he hasn't begun training for the offseason, which will happen in San Diego with Kawhi.
    He went and did his . It wasn't good enough.

    Hopefully the Spurs coaching staff are going to put together a regimen for him to go through to develop what they want before training camp and he's going to be with Kawhi to make sure it sets in.
    Summer League is garbage to him right now. He needs time in the oven, on 450 degrees for a hot minute.

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    I don't think it has much to do with a trade, though I guess it could be a move for an established guard like Beverly. But I doubt it. I think they want him to take the SL seriously, because they need him as either the starting PG or a key backup.
    It's just so weird. If he isn't hurt why bench him in summer league? Even if he misses 10 shots in a row (that actually happened btw in something like 15 minutes)... anyways that's what SL is for...unless they know he isn't ready to be a featured guy and are protecting his ego... same way they wouldn't feature LJC and play him 30 minutes if they want to still win. Maybe I am in denial and that's what is happening...

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    I understand, but I think I can help:
    Pop wanted to see growth from him.
    It was only a few weeks from the end of the season and he hasn't begun training for the offseason, which will happen in San Diego with Kawhi.
    He went and did his . It wasn't good enough.

    Hopefully the Spurs coaching staff are going to put together a regimen for him to go through to develop what they want before training camp and he's going to be with Kawhi to make sure it sets in.
    Summer League is garbage to him right now. He needs time in the oven, on 450 degrees for a hot minute.
    I expected improvement compared to last summer ... not from 6 weeks ago. He's been less selfish and that's it, compared to last summer. That's at least something..

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    I expected improvement compared to last summer ... not from 6 weeks ago. He's been less selfish and that's it, compared to last summer. That's at least something..
    Yeah, but he's only 6 weeks removed from last season.
    That's the only time he has been able to do things not team related and for personal growth.

    The offseason has only just begun.

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    I expected improvement compared to last summer ... not from 6 weeks ago. He's been less selfish and that's it, compared to last summer. That's at least something..
    It takes 12 weeks to start a good habit, FYI...

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    It's just so weird. If he isn't hurt why bench him in summer league? Even if he misses 10 shots in a row (that actually happened btw in something like 15 minutes)... anyways that's what SL is for...unless they know he isn't ready to be a featured guy and are protecting his ego... same way they wouldn't feature LJC and play him 30 minutes if they want to still win. Maybe I am in denial and that's what is happening...
    But the summer league isn't there for Murray to be an asshole on the court. I'm not saying I'd call him that, but he had some questionable decisions, and it was absurd that after four games he still hadn't figured out that the streetball he was trying to pull wasn't helping anyone. Murray's going to have to be a good offensive player if he's in the rotation, which means he's going to have to be a positive with the ball in his hands. PATFO probably wanted to see what he could actually do, not watch him failing at AAU moves over and over again.

    I actually think it was something that one of the coaches talked to them about. The team in general outside of Forbes has cut down on their showboating and hero-balling.

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