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That won't be good for Kawhi or the Spurs. We desperately need a legit #2 option to relieve him so at least SOME responsibility.
You are basically telling me there's nothing else to be gained bc he isn't ready to play better right now? Basically I want to make sure I understand your point. If that's your point, I can see the rationale. Have you seen something similar in any other Spur youngster who was in the roster?
That won't be good for Kawhi or the Spurs. We desperately need a legit #2 option to relieve him so at least SOME responsibility.
No argument. Just the situation the team is looking at right now.
Thanks for that point. Pop and staff certainly wouldn't put up with immaturity of that nature. One of my lasting memories of him is him looking off a guy wide open in the corner to attempt a contested floater in the paint that he missed of course... He has so much talent but doesn't put it together and he won't be able to reach his ceiling or the best possible version of him if he doesn't have the proper fear and he doesn't have it right now.
Like Murray got zero coaching after games...
No, he was doing what he was encouraged to do and he failed.
He was encouraged to lead. He was encouraged to take over. He failed at everything, in the SL and now the coaching staff has to think about this .
Bryn became the star of the SL and Murray was pulled so that Bryn could go all out.
Murray may get one more look, but i bet the coaching staff has seen enough for the SL and hope for the best with his training with KL afterwards, before training camp.
Paying the piper for some questionable moves the last couple of years.
Don't you mean he was doing what he was encouraged not to do?
True...
Damn.
I feel lucky just getting our decades of beautiful success, after having watched the brutal 80's and teasing 90's.
Now it's back to that old feeling of being the bridesmaid.
Nope. I feel he was encouraged to exacerbate what he thought he could do. Lead a team as the lead guy.
And he didn't.
So now? We work to move on and reclaim what we can.
I say "we" figuratively.
Roger. I understand your point. Maybe growing pains for him.
The thing with me is: I would much rather feel like a bridesmaid than the (old) matron of honor. I like the Lauvergne signing because he is at least a guy who is not way past his expiration date like the re-treads PATFO usually tries to re-load with.
The realisation of potential comprise equal parts of hardware (i.e. physical ability) and software (i.e. the stuff between the ears to put everything together and improve). Murray certainly has the hardware; it's the software that people are worried about.
What we don't take into account: he has had no time to grow yet.
My goodness, it's been a few weeks since they got eliminated.
What is he going to learn?
Give him some time in San Diego with Kawhi and a coaching staff that's given him things to work on.
He is not beyond redemption.
I think you are right - on that level. But, to your point about receiving coaching during SL: I am pretty sure the coaches tried to get him to not rely on his AAU/streetball instincts, which he could not do.
I feel the opposite. I think they wanted him to go all out on his instincts and see where it gets him.
Which showed it got him TO's.
Now time to play within a structure baby.
Hmm Murray didn't play today? Maybe they took him aside for some practice dribbles?
Did you see how many coaches the Spurs have on staff this summer league? Was it around 12 of them? Do you think any of them was impressed with Murray's streetball play?
They saw what they wanted and now the staff has formulated an offseason plan for him. Hopefully including tightening his dribble and playing within the system.
10 of those 12 could have easily been food truck cooks. Let's get real here.
I didn't notice how many coaches were there, but the one that counts was certainly paying attention, and he was cringing.
So, you think it was all part of the deconstruction of Dijon plan before reconstructing him as a Spur?
I went to some games early last season to watch the shoot around. These NBA players are amazing in shoot around. They ball has nice rotaton and they nail jumpers from everywhere. Even the "scrubs" were amazing.
And then I watched Murray clang jumper after jumper. I want him to be good. But he can't dribble. He can't shoot. He can't pass. He can't finish well. I mean, how can he be our starting PG or even our 2nd string guard? His only positive is his measurable ( height and wingspan). He needs a lot of work and one summer with Kawhi isn't enough.
Yup. The one that counts. This SL is some real to the real coaches, Bryn is going to get some experimental time and, if Simmons stay, he will see starting duties.
None of it will work out, but Pop will figure something out by the time of the playoffs to not get swept out of the 1 round and may even do things to get to the WCF.
That's how badass Pop is.
You've never been in the military, have you?
No argument.
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