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ceperez falls in love with every scrub player that comes to SA. ...he was even fluffing Jimmer.
Yeah, it's kind of absurd.This.
The posters that are criticizing him for dropping 70pts in 2 games are the same re s that bashed him in previous pages in this thread. They already gave their opinion of him and they don't wanna look like idiots. It's the reason Bertans literally receives ZERO criticism for being mostly awful so far, they were blowing that guy's pipes when he was in Europe and swore he was NBA ready.
"He can't do this against NBA compe ion."
He doesn't have to. Instead of beating guys one-on-one, he can attack close-outs. He can get open shots from other guys. If anything, it's pretty amazing how much better he's become since he came over, considering he's about to turn 24.
I think saying he's making Mills expendable is a bit much. But people are acting as if he hasn't been Gary Neal good so far, and Neal was able to make the transition just fine.
ceperez falls in love with every scrub player that comes to SA. ...he was even fluffing Jimmer.
Was he one the Daye train too? I know littlecoyotecoin was.ceperez falls in love with every scrub player that comes to SA. ...he was even fluffing Jimmer.
I think Forbes is learning a lot from his teammates. He plays with the kind of abandon like Mills. I guess he does all this yelling like Pau. I am sure he'll pick up a ton of tricks of how to get to the paint like Parker. Yeah, he isn't that athletic, but you can see that he's like a sponge and learning all he can. To add, he already comes with a deadly shot. That's for many other players needs years of development.
Against NBA compe ion, the one on one defender is likely to be better than SL. However, he's not going to get the kind of defensive attention. He's not going to get double teamed.
People keep comparing him with Murray. Sure Murray might have better one-on-one moves but how does that translate to an NBA game when he'll mostly be off the ball and be at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to offense?
Off the ball? Murray is a drive and kick player...like tony parker...
Porker's jumper has been decent all along. It was certainly better than Manu's early in their NBA careers when the SG couldn't shoot while the PG couldn't pass.
Murray's jumper (if he actually has one) is a different story altogether.
Porker had gravity because of his accurate floater and a variety of finishing moves in the paint.
Murray won't be anywhere near as effective.
I was hoping Daye would come out okay, I guess not.
I'm not a fan of every SA scrub, right now I'm on the fence with Murray. He looks talented but apparently can't shoot.
I've never been a fan of Aldridge, that's for sure.
Not a fan of the Pau signing, would have preferred to have Boris and Boban on the team instead.
Definitely not a fan of last years play. Sickening.
The previous year had more promise, but we couldn't matchup against OKC bigs. But that team would have had a better chance against GSW.
Parker developed a potent midrange jumper, which is one of the reasons he ranks top 10 in NBA history for FG% for a PG. that said, he couldn't hit a barn the first few years, and it hurt the team. But in fairness, he was an elite finisher at the rim even at 19. Murray can't shoot or finish at the rim. He is raw and has yet to show how he can exist in the Spurs system that needs its pg to dribble, pass, shoot and penetrate into the paint.
Parker had elite handles from day one. So its not only that Murray can't shoot, he can't dribble!
His one elite skill is rebounding.
He's kind of like a Dennis Rodman player. Lots of athleticism, but very little skill.
However, as Detroit has shown, specialists can be important players. I just don't know how it translates in this day and age.
GSW fixed their problems with Memphis by leaving Tony Allen by himself.
I dont think you know what elite handles are...curry has elite handles....cp3 has elite handles...Iverson has elite handles...tony Parker just had decent handles
Cmon bro. Tony has elite handling skills.
Elite?? Tony parker has ELITE ball handling skills? Lmfao! So I guess Mark Jackson had ELITE ball handling skills then? Elite is the level of the names I mentioned earlier...Iverson, cp3, curry, even Crawford... Tony parker can't dribble better than then...dont be a homer...decent/good ball handling doesn't equate to ELITE ball handling on ANY day
Kyrie has the best handles in the NBA. The professor overall.
What?! This isn't the And-1 league. Sure Parker may not be the best at dribbling two balls at once, but in NBA games, he handles the ball against pressure and rarely ever gets his pocket picked. That's elite. There are guys that occasionally get picked , and then there's Murray, who gives every defender that leans into him a chance to steal the ball or he gets in the paint and tries to do And 1 garbage until someone picks his pocket or he turns it over.
duncan2k5's entire schtick is ting on anyone and anything Spurs. Kind of like Hoops Czar but with a weird D Murray obsession.
Sorry. Tony had elite handles.
Parker had two elite skills, speed/quickness and ability to finish at the basket, good enough to make him a multi-time all-star. Forbes has one elite skill, shooting, quite possibly good enough to parlay him into a functional rotation player.
Bro this is ing stupid. Parkers handles were absolutely elite.
TP was a fantastic ball handler. I think he was elite. Sure, he didn't have the flashy moves, but he was a darn good ball handler for most of his career.
Forbes ball handling was Night and Day from last year summer league. Before he was just catch and shoot. Now he creates for himself and for everybody, always on the attack mode. And his demeanor, no fancy trying to be cute -- almost like Kawhi. I rooted for him last year. With his shooting skills, we might have found our 6th man. Mills can now start. And Murray? He hasn't shown me anything yet. I would prefer him because he's long and could match better defensively with Simmons/Kawhi/Green. But again he needs to show up
I wasn't comparing game or any other attribute. Just saying Forbes isn't as small as many effective players from any era of the league. Forbes hasn't proven he can contribute anywhere close to his Summer League performance in the NBA. It's like he gets in an actual NBA game and he gets the yips.
"Elite" is one of the most subjective terms used around here. Tony was never flashy or tricky, but when he entered the league he was a blur with a basketball. If he had demonstrated the kind of flashy dribbling skill that many posters call "elite", Pop would have kept him on the bench. His handles were good enough to be PG on the most elite team of the last 20+ years.
FIFY. Let's see what happens going forward.
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