Yes, Chandler has some injury issues. But the Suns have a couple of nice young PF prospects. And PHX was the Spurs' main competion for LMA in free agency.
As you know (but graciously refrain from reminding me) I have advocated turning the keys over to Dijon since the middle of last season. I hope his SL performance is just his playing down to the compe ion. But with the stable of backcourt players we are gathering, I would really like to see us move him - if it meant moving LMA and getting a good piece or two in return.
Who are these prospects you speak of? I don't watch the Suns. Chandler an Len are the only bigs I knew of there.
Bender and Chriss. I think Len is a UFA. So he would have to be a S&T.
I like speculations, predictions etc bc they are fun... not to laugh at guys who were bold if/when they get it wrong, after the fact. That is dabom you are talking about. The degree to which guys dig up stuff like that is childish IMO.
Anyways, I disagree he's playing down to his compe ion. It's possible more of his floaters didn't go in than normal and he had a cold night that game he went 0-10. Having a cold stretch is a real possibility, look at Davis, and we know he can shoot.
However, take away Dijon's inefficiency, assume he'd made 3 of those floaters that one game... and then that is basically what he shot for the season: around 35%. He wasn't that efficient or good in college either. He's just always been an inefficient player. On top of that he's always been TO prone. We have seen those things in the NBA too. I was hoping he'd work on those things and improve and he's so far been the same. I would have liked to have seen him attempt a few jumpshots and not everything be a floater too.
It's not like he has been an efficient, controlled PG in the NBA. He hasn't. Everything he's done wrong in SL we have seen b4. What didn't happen in SL is that we didn't get to see some of the good flashes he's given and it's possible he just had a few bad games offensively, in that respect... and I think that is where he benefited from having better space with better teammates in the NBA and he was being set up for good shots himself with the big club.
The point is he's looked the same as the bad Dijon we have seen at times, with none of his good traits/flashes. It's more likely looking like the nights his floater is falling would be one thing, but that shot is not consistent or good enough right now. He needs to work on that floater more like "tonight... you" said. If that is his go to move, he has to perfect that . then he needs to add other things, a jumpshot, etc. and he has to look to finish stronger at the basket for which maybe he needs strength. Basically, he's a looong term project the way he's looking.
the only aspect where I noticed improvement was that he was a more willing passer than his first summer league but that still didn't lead to wins. one could say maybe he didn't take the game seriously but considering he's competing for playing time next season, I don't think he can afford to take things cavalierly.
At this point I cannot argue with your analysis.
Hanlan is good player .
If SAS traded Murray , SAS should sign Hanlan .
Didn't Chriss show our against us?
I was going to say for Bledsoe and Chandler but the whole point of getting Chandler is for LMA so I guess it would have been Bledsoe and Chandler for Juice, Dijon and (Pau) which I could have lived with not sure Pau would though.
What in the world is going with Murray? Why is his sucky ass sitting out sl games?
among other speculations that have gone down in the game threads... we are speculating a trade here.What in the world is going with Murray? Why is his sucky ass sitting out sl games?
Don't get what's going on. Think Hardy said he wasn't injured and don't buy that he's sat multiple games because of his supposed at ude. I could see them benching him during a game for that, but that's about it.
People think Paul is the Simmons replacement, but he doesn't fit the third perimeter defender role and unless Ginobili retires, they had enough guards without Simmons . . . could be he's the Murray or Forbes replacement.
He also doesn't fit with win now mentality and reality is, when Parker returns, him and Mills will continue to be primary PG's for probably at least 1.5 seasons. Finding a starter at that point shouldn't be overly difficult considering it's the most oversaturated position in the league.
An Aldridge/Murray for Chandler/Bender or Chriss trade, would balance roster better, but destroy '18 flexibility. Team would likely remain about the same, but lose some upside on off chance Aldridge reverts to star form.
Len is an RFA, but rumor is, he can be had at a less than exorbitant price.
Paul's arguably as good of a defender as Simmons. With him for guards and Kyle for forwards, the team is fine on that end.
Even if that ends up being true, that doesn't explain their not needing another guard.
Something's got to give. I'll believe Spurs going with 3 traditional bigs and permanent small ball when I see it.
The Spurs have plenty of potential SFs on their roster (Green, Leonard, Anderson, Gay, Bertans, Blossomgame if he makes it).
Mills, Murray, White, Parker
Green, Forbes, Paul
Leonard, Anderson
Gay, Bertans
Aldridge, Lauvernge
16: Blossomgame
So that leaves two spots open. If they both go to bigs (Gasol and a PF), they'll have a full and balanced rotation, especially considering Parker is currently out.
The Spurs definitely needed another guard. They need an answer to their rotation, and they're going to go throw multiple players to find it. No one in their right mind can say they felt comfortable with the back court as previously projected.
Whether you think Bertans is still an SF or not, it's clear they view him as strictly a PF. If Gay isn't at this point, he's at least closer to it than not.
You're assuming Ginobili retires. He might not and if he doesn't, they don't need another guard. Sure, they need better quality, but not quan y.
What they need, is another traditional big, especially if they still intend to start that way.
And they can't go with only three real bigs with gasol, aldridge and lauvergne. They will definitely take another big imo.
I've already said that I think they need four guys capable of playing center. I don't disagree that they're small. Yes, I'm not assuming Manu comes back. The team will figure it out if he decides to do so. They are only going to get quality by letting the quan y sort itself out. That's what they need with starting SG and backup PG years back. If Paul comes in and becomes a rotation player, the will be glad they got him. In the mean time, if he is the worst guard in the bunch, the team will cut him and be okay with it.
If you think Bertans and Gay are PFs, then that means the team will play them as such and factor them into their roster counts. So by that definition, the team currently has four bigs with a fifth assumed back. It hardly makes sense to argue that SA considers combo-forwards to be their PFs and then argue that they won't play said combo-forwards at what they consider to be those players' natural spot.
It doesn't make sense to allot so many roster spots to the same caliber of player at the same position and the notion of some sort of ongoing tryout is basically out the window if Ginobili returns and will only be further exacerbated when Parker does.
Could be what gives is what you alluded to: Paul looking bad in training camp/preseason and them "eating" his contract.
They utilized Bertans almost exclusively at PF, but he's a matchup dependant one. They need another traditional, no questions asked one.
It's very weird..O hey: a Dejounte sighting..Dude seems to be interested to be part of the stars cliques but he is not big shot yet..
LeBron looks embarrassed to be with two scrubs.
I'm still wondering why Murray is not playing. Sure needs to be.
To me there are trade talks.. don't know how or where or anything but I keep coming back to that.
I don't buy Murray trade talks for several reasons, the biggest of which being his minimal trade value.
Maybe LeBron wants him. He's generally a ty judge of talent.
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