Spurs withdraw qualifying offer for Simmons

[I. Hustle]

You mean like Green, Porker, Gasol, Mills and who else?
Not buying that Simmons has peaked either.

First of all, Parker has a history with the team. Big difference including him in there. I can see the others but you can't put Simmons on TPs level.

[MultiTroll]

Spurs are losing athleticism fast; first Dedmon, now this.

[MultiTroll]

First of all, Parker has a history with the team. Big difference including him in there. I can see the others but you can't put Simmons on TPs level.

Last time I checked Porker was paid handsomely for every season he was on the roster.
This *loyalty* bull in reality is extreme disloyalty to the rest of the teams Championship chances.
Already saw Duncan allow himself to get bf'd by this chit.
Hope Kawhi doesn't put up with it.

[SAGirl]

Could be gossip.
Pop said more than once, he was happy for JSimms "bc he was going to have an NBA career now."

Never said he was the team's future or anything tough. Never made expressions similar to the ones he made about Mills.

[baseline bum]

Damn I hope Simmons can get a nice multi year deal still. It would suck to see him have to take a one year deal somewhere.

[DPG21920]

Damn I hope Simmons can get a nice multi year deal still. It would suck to see him have to take a one year deal somewhere.

With the apparent at ude of his I don't really care. Spurs made him a more than fair offer and he thought he was worth more. Bye.

[rastaspur]

Trying to make sense of TheGreatYacht's garbage is like ing for the cause of virginity

[baseline bum]

With the apparent at ude of his I don't really care. Spurs made him a more than fair offer and he thought he was worth more. Bye.

What at ude of his? I'm rooting for the guy. He came out of nowhere and showed he can be a quality NBA player. He is so much better now than when he first came to the Spurs.

[coachmac87]

Just another player thinking they're better then Green (Simmons, SJax) and getting inconsistent minutes...

I see both sides though...

[hooperflash]

Stephen Jackson all over again

[baseline bum]

Stephen Jackson all over again

Spurs would have rang in 06 had they not let him walk.

[hooperflash]

Spurs would have rang in 06 had they not let him walk.

What about '04? Do you think they win then, too?

[DPG21920]

What at ude of his? I'm rooting for the guy. He came out of nowhere and showed he can be a quality NBA player. He is so much better now than when he first came to the Spurs.

The at ude that turned down a lucrative multi-year deal like you're rooting for him to sign then complains about SA handicapping him when it was SA who developed him and gave him his shot. Chuck the deuce up to Simmons imo

[LittleCriminal]

Simmons needs to get over himself...
Now instead of making 9 mill a year he's hoping he gets a contract worth anything.

[baseline bum]

What about '04? Do you think they win then, too?

I don't know, that Pistons team was really something. They were better than the 05 team. I think they would have gotten through LA though without Turkoglu constantly missing shots when no one was within ten feet of him.

[baseline bum]

The at ude that turned down a lucrative multi-year deal like you're rooting for him to sign then complains about SA handicapping him when it was SA who developed him and gave him his shot. Chuck the deuce up to Simmons imo

Do we know what deal he turned down? Or just what the Spurs could theoretically offer? Maybe he wanted a four year deal and RC only offered three. I was kind of leery of RC offering an MLE contract so I'm not mad at the Spurs renouncing him. And I'm not mad at Simmons for holding out for what he thinks he's worth.

[DPG21920]

Do we know what deal he turned down? Or just what the Spurs could theoretically offer? Maybe he wanted a four year deal and RC only offered three. I was kind of leery of RC offering an MLE contract so I'm not mad at the Spurs renouncing him. And I'm not mad at Simmons for holding out for what he thinks he's worth.

What you think you're worth and what you're actually worth are very different things. Spurs offered 3/27M. That's more than he's worth. Let's see where he lands.

But the parting shots about being handicapped is where I say gtfo

[baseline bum]

What you think you're worth and what you're actually worth are very different things. Spurs offered 3/27M. That's more than he's worth. Let's see where he lands.

But the parting shots about being handicapped is where I say gtfo

He was being handicapped by restricted free agency. You don't know that's more than he's worth. We won't know that until we see what he actually signs somewhere for.

[daslicer]

It sucks that it looks like the Spurs are not going to re-sign him but at the same time I don't feel bad for Simmons. Simmons thought he could get overpaid and tried to play the market and it's obvious that he failed.

[DPG21920]

He was being handicapped by restricted free agency. You don't know that's more than he's worth. We won't know that until we see what he actually signs somewhere for.

I do know that is more than he's worth. You can look at the average contracts for wings based on skillset, age, production & advanced stats and quite easily place a market value on players.

Just because one stupid team like NY MAY do something dumb doesn't change the market. And who is he to complain about RFA? He said SA handicapped him not the CBA. He handicapped SA with players like Hanga because he was trying to leverage a dumb team into paying over market value.

Money has basically dried up now and plenty of valued RFA signed lucrative offer sheets. SA or RFA didn't handicap Simmons; the very clear lack of a market for a mediocre player did.

[rjv]

so spurs didn't offer the MLE and simmons asked for spurs to renounce. last heard the mavs were interested but balking at the price tag.

[SAGirl]

[marinoman]

This saga is nauseating

[ducks]

Wonder if Simmons will swallow pride and come home

[baseline bum]

I do know that is more than he's worth. You can look at the average contracts for wings based on skillset, age, production & advanced stats and quite easily place a market value on players.

Just because one stupid team like NY MAY do something dumb doesn't change the market. And who is he to complain about RFA? He said SA handicapped him not the CBA. He handicapped SA with players like Hanga because he was trying to leverage a dumb team into paying over market value.

Money has basically dried up now and plenty of valued RFA signed lucrative offer sheets. SA or RFA didn't handicap Simmons; the very clear lack of a market for a mediocre player did.

Mozgov got $64 million man, don't try to tell me $27 million is ridiculous. Of course RFA handicapped Simmons. Most teams had to figure if they offered MLE the Spurs would match. You have to throw huge contracts at an RFA most of the time, eg Hardaway's $71 million.