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    Somewhat reminiscent of Jack, only I think the Spurs played this one as best they could - that was a more than fair QO.

    In the end, he (his agent) is betting on him. Unlikely it plays out as well as it did for Jack, though. Interested to see if he'll do a one-year, player-option in Year 2, then try again.
    I don't think it will pan out for him like it did with Jax. Jax was still very young in '03. He had just turned 25 back then which made it easier for him to take a risk and gamble for a bigger contract. Simmons will be turning 28 in a few months. This is pretty much it for him. He probably pissed away his only chance for a good deal. There is a high probability for the rest of his career he will never get a better deal than what the Spurs offered him.

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    Wonder if they will do sign and trade

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    Guess that answers that. Going to be kicking himself, possibly firing an agent, for that one.

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    I hope he enjoys playing for a 20 win team.

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    And this is the last you'll ever hear the name Jonathan Simmons.

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    nothing here
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    good for him. I am assuming the third season not being guaranteed was a deal breaker in the Spurs offer then.

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    It's not just the "I want Simmons to land a great deal crowd" but guys like Jabari acting like Simmons was done wrong. Plenty of FAs got good deals but Simmons is mediocre, 27, can't shoot and is low priority obviously. Not just by SA but by almost every team.

    Then on top of it people on ST who watched him are acting like he's Iggy levels of good.

    I was fine w Simmons doing his FA thing but he was gambling someone was going to do something dumb and those options are dwindling now. Plus when coupled with the possibility of a bad at ude when SA gave him a career?

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    Guess that answers that. Going to be kicking himself, possibly firing an agent, for that one.
    He got himself an extra 7M guaranteed. For scrubs, winning is secondary to making money.

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    In the end he ended up taking slightly less money than what the Spurs offered. Clearly him and his agent are dumbasses.

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    good for him. I am assuming the third season not being guaranteed was a deal breaker in the Spurs offer then.
    I want link

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    Provide the link

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    yea we will need confirmation. If that is the deal I'll wait to see the meltdown tomorrow.

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    that's why I placed a question mark. I was looking for confirmation.

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    that's why I placed a question mark. I was looking for confirmation.
    Ok

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    He got himself an extra 7M guaranteed. For scrubs, winning is secondary to making money.
    If the original reports were true, the money would have been as good or better and he'd be playing meaningful basketball, not having to move.

    It's not a bad deal for him, but he threw away the better option.

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    Texas also taxes are better

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    If the original reports were true, the money would have been as good or better and he'd be playing meaningful basketball, not having to move.

    It's not a bad deal for him, but he threw away the better option.
    I believe the third year was a team option so not guaranteed.

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    Fake post.

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    I believe the third year was a team option so not guaranteed.
    If he lives up to the contract, it's picked up. Ducks is right about the taxes, too.

    But, you may be right. If he has any doubts about being worth his option being picked up in Year 3, he got his security. Happy for him - and glad the Spurs let him go if he has doubts about like that.

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    , rjv... you get me with some fake news?

    The pink may have to come out . . .

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    In the end he ended up taking slightly less money than what the Spurs offered. Clearly him and his agent are dumbasses.
    If that is the deal.. (as of yet unconfirmed).. he didn't lose as much as George Hill and his agent.

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    If that is the deal.. (as of yet unconfirmed).. he didn't lose as much as George Hill and his agent.
    He still ended up making less money which is he was trying to maximize. Granted if the Spurs weren't guaranteeing the third year then I will admit that he put himself in a better position.

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    Simmons to Atlanta? Shams Charania
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    Jonathon Simmons has agreed to sign a three-year, 25$ million deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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    How ironic that he went to Atlanta. Same place SJax went to. Would you guys have re-signed him for $25 million x 3 years?

    Edit : Is that news legit?

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