Shams: Jonathon Simmons Agrees to 3-yr Deal w/Orlando Magic

[RD2191]

Popovich really has to go. Every black male doesn't have a cool calm demeanor like Duncan and Leonard. Mf thinks he's running a goddamn plantation trying to get young black millionaire to act a certain or he benches them. We all remember when Murray was killing Cleveland and had 11 points on a little hot streak. He gets in a tussle with, I think Irving, during a timeout and he doesn't play anymore for the rest of the game and a few after that. I'm sick of his .

Yeah, pop needs to gtfo TBH.

[dabom]

You're right. Your "eye test". That's validity right there. Look at the metrics (you know reality) they favor Anderson over Simmons.

You can't play limited minutes and say someone played better.

Simmons is not gonna get benched when the heat shows up like fathead. Learn basketball then talk to me.

[south side spur]

You can't play limited minutes and say someone played better.

Simmons is not gonna get benched when the heat shows up like fathead. Learn basketball then talk to me.

Simmons is a dime a dozen player. It might even be addition by subtraction. Acting like he's a difference maker is hilarious

[dabom]

Simmons is a dime a dozen player. It might even be addition by subtraction. Acting like he's a difference maker is hilarious

He is OK vs the best team in the NBA. But we are debating if he is better than fathead.

[south side spur]

He is OK vs the best team in the NBA. But we are debating if he is better than fathead.

I know it's pathetic. Why focus on Anderson? The focus should be on White. He's just better at basketball. Losing Simmons is a non issue.

[dabom]

I know it's pathetic. Why focus on Anderson? The focus should be on White. He's just better at basketball. Losing Simmons is a non issue.

And yet he's not better.

[DPG21920]

Lol Simmons thinking he was worth 50M

[south side spur]

And yet he's not better.

We're not talking dunking here right? That's all I'll give you. Shooting? Ball handling? Facilitating the offense? You're really going to say Simmons is better than White in those aspects of the game? And you question my basketball knowledge?

[dabom]

Defense, getting his own buckets. got.

[raybies]

There you have it.

Wow either his head ballooned up like a hot air balloon or he really believes he can be a star. Either gonna be the next Lance Stephenson or Stephen Jackson imo

Magic don't have shooters or a star.. Could get brutal for him. Lack of experience with the players... eesh. GL

[DPG21920]

Also, I love the spin "I thought I was worth 50M". Then getting only 20M "ORL was a great choice". No, no they weren't. They just offered you the most money and it was not nearly what you thought it would be.

[marinoman]

I'm not saying Simmons was a keep at all costs player but We have no guards that could get to the basket now.
I hate our shooting guards....and centers...and pgs....good god

[raybies]

Lol Simmons thinking he was worth 50M

#NewNBA tbh . Averages 6 points in Season, has a couple good games in the playoffs and thinks he was worth like 12 per. Sigh... Spurs tried to talk sense to him in my estimation. Who is this dude? Thought he was a Spur and part of the family but he's a mercenary. You know who the Spurs are. They get contracts and sacrifice and get taken care of later. I'm a little disappointed in Simmons but it's whatever. He wanted a raise and got it. Hope the grass is greener on the other side.

Payton/Simmons/Ross/Isaac/Vucevic

[south side spur]

Defense, getting his own buckets. got.

Defense? I won't argue either way on that but let's not act like White is some turnstile he was all PAC 12 defense. Getting buckets? 6 points a game regular season? 10.5 in the playoffs? I don't know how White can match that juggernaut offense.

[raybies]

I'm not saying Simmons was a keep at all costs player but We have no guards that could get to the basket now.

Thought this too...
we'll be a chuckin along

[dabom]

Defense? I won't argue either way on that but let's not act like White is some turnstile he was all PAC 12 defense. Getting buckets? 6 points a game regular season? 10.5 in the playoffs? I don't know how White can match that juggernaut offense.

He doesn't even come close to guarding players simmons has.

I'd be shocked if white averages more than any of those stats.

[ducks]

Ball movement spurs won le
They hit open 3 threes

[DPG21920]

Don't you get the feeling that the Spurs just got tired of dealing with his , and his agent's? I really think they would have given him a package that would compare with that 3/20 deal he got, even if the third year was only half guaranteed or something similar. They didn't hang around as long as they did, if they always had no intention of bringing him back.

All the bull about Pop not wanting him back? All they had to do was not give a QO. Maybe they were thinking about some kind of S&T angle, but I'm not really feeling that.

I definitley think they were considering sign and trades with the report of the PHX deal, but that is a chicken & egg type thing.

I knew this was trouble when early on you heard reports of Simmons essentially "not going to cave to SA" and that he had a "number in his head" . 50M

I tried to tell people that if he was playing that game SA was going to as well. If he was trying to leverage SA and failed, they would not bid against themselves. I absolutely think SA got tried of the drama for a player that is so medicore to below average; even though they understood what this payday meant to him.

Simmons will look back years from now and understand he probably messed up but doesn't matter for either party in the big scheme of things.

[ducks]

Nude beaches for his daughters

[GSH]

"I want to be in position to play a decent amount of minutes per game," said Simmons. "I feel like I can excel playing enough minutes per game. I explained that to Pop (Gregg Popovich) and he understand that. ... I want to be able to continue to improve and still make a name for myself and I wasn't going to do that (with the Spurs). Not like I wanted to."

Oh , I hadn't see that. At his age? If he really has "goals" like that, he should have signed a 1-year deal and bet on himself. He'll be 30 when this deal is done, and unless he gets a LOT better, this is a good as it gets - if he doesn't kick ass in the last year of this contract, he'll be lucky to get a roster spot anywhere else.

I wonder if he really believes that he's going to be more in demand at 30 than he is right now? Because if he loses even a tiny bit of athleticism, he's got nothing else to fall back on.

[GSH]

I definitley think they were considering sign and trades with the report of the PHX deal, but that is a chicken & egg type thing.

My point was just that I don't think they extended the QO solely for the purpose of S&T. If they thought that some other team wanted him for a Patty-sized deal, it would have meant taking back that much salary, which probably means taking on a bad contract, and digging a deeper hole. The S&T idea had to have been Plan B.

There's a pretty good lesson here, and last season. The plum FA deals get signed early in free agency, and the ones who wait too long start getting desperate. Spurs need to keep some powder dry next offseason.

[Budkin]

Two tears.

All in for 2018-2019.

This is about all we have going for us now.

[SAGirl]

Lol Simmons thinking he was worth 50M

It wasn't just the contract he wanted, though that was a big part of it.

He also mentioned "politics."

Probably wanted to play over Manu and Danny. He didn't think he had the opportunities to play and grow as much with the Spurs as elsewhere... meaning there were others ahead of him in the pecking order, as well as others behind him. The ones ahead of him weren't going to lose playing time for him, and the ones behind him and that includes rookies and players still being developed by the team in guards spots, would get playing time randomly through the season to develop. He was stuck in a bench role. He's not a youngster and can't afford for Manu to retire, for Danny to move on, or get traded??? Do you realize now that the potential Danny trades were to promote Simmons, give him the contract he wanted and the starting role he wanted?

It now all falls into place frankly. Unfortunately for JSimms, the Danny trades didn't pan out, Manu started deviating from what appeared to retiring and started "leaning in" to come back, the team drafted another guard, then on top of that in his eyes he got shafted in that trade deal not falling through after conversations were advanced. Basically he got fed up with the Spurs.

[SAGirl]

Wow either his head ballooned up like a hot air balloon or he really believes he can be a star. Either gonna be the next Lance Stephenson or Stephen Jackson imo

Magic don't have shooters or a star.. Could get brutal for him. Lack of experience with the players... eesh. GL

well you were buying what he was selling. He was a 2 way potential star player you said... he's getting his chance.

he chose the ideal situation. The Magic need any help they can get from wherever they can get it. The east is atrocious outside of Cleveland Boston and the Bucks (when healthy, Middleton and Jabari, on top of Brogdon should be great support for Antetoukoumpo)... anyways, he wanted to be an all star. He's ambitious. He's going to get his chance now... so good for him in the sense that he didn't back down from a goal.

[Raven]

good for him.