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    Glad for JS, he got his $$. A wonderful story to persevere like he did.

    That being said, Brandon Paul is a much more polished scorer and play maker, especially for the money. No way teams are going to be able to sag off of Paul, or go under screens. Paul is a better fit for the Spurs in this NBA. Two inches shorter than JS, but his wingspan and slightly better athletic ability will make up for it.

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    This reminds me of Stephen Jackson.....
    He could have stayed with the Spurs, but over-valued himself and got a crap contract on a crap Atlanta team. Simmons over-valued himself, but a crappy Orlando team did pay him more than any other team. Still, he will be competing for the lottery instead of at least the conference finals. Adios and vaya con dios. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

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    He is OK vs the best team in the NBA. But we are debating if he is better than fathead.
    he's not.

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    He's obviously not. People don't understand that guys like Neal and Beli easily outplayed Simmons "at his best". The team has zero issues with getting guys who can score 14 ppg on terrible efficiency when they are the low priority for the defense.

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    The irony. Pop complains when they don't compete and aren't mentally tough. When he gets someone that is mentally tough he doesn't try to keep him. How is this offer better than 9m/year?

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    Manure costing us players because of his mandatory playing time even when he's 0-10. This is going to be tough on his fluffers to spin, according to them, players like him lmfao.

    Sucks to lose the only guy that showed up against GS, but oh well. Can't wait to see Forbes not see the court over D-League Danny and Manure.

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    Manure costing us players because of his mandatory playing time even when he's 0-10. This is going to be tough on his fluffers to spin, according to them, players like him lmfao.

    Sucks to lose the only guy that showed up against GS, but oh well. Can't wait to see Forbes not see the court over D-League Danny and Manure.
    Hopefully he signed somewhere else because he heard Manu is coming back, tbh... one can only hope...

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    It took Simmons a full season plus before he got into the rotation. If it takes Paul the same amount of time, then that's a great pick up. But we will still be going backwards.

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    It took Simmons a full season plus before he got into the rotation. If it takes Paul the same amount of time, then that's a great pick up. But we will still be going backwards.
    Not if you are clearing cap space for an acquisition a year from now.

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    Told you a guy with that athleticism was going to get paid in this league... plus even if he loses 80 games, he'll have a better marquee to show himself there, tbh...

    The Spurs nickel and diming him though is kinda ridiculous, they could've signed him for that and then trade him mid-season. Dude had a good reputation...

    They basically let him walk with nothing to show for it...
    Sorry, I don't consider 2/$18M to be nickel and diming. That's almost as much as Orlando offered him for 3 years.

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    Lol Simmons thinking he was worth 50M
    JJ Red c is gettig $25 million next season. And all he does is hit open 3s. No defense, no creating his own shot. Nothing.

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    JJ Red c is gettig $25 million next season. And all he does is hit open 3s. No defense, no creating his own shot. Nothing.
    So you want the Spurs to be like the Sixers lol??

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    To me Simmons is making a fairly typical NBA mistake. He thinks that he will organically improve his numbers and consistency if he just gets playing time. Meaning the team is supposed to ride out all the growing pains.

    But Pop knows better and tries to teach his players something key. It's the things you do off the court where you learn some consistency and intensity, and develop muscle memory and habits. So when you get your 10-15 minutes of playing time, you are very effective, help extend leads, get out of holes, etc. GMs above all look for role players like that, because they aren't going to subs ute one for a star minutes wise.

    I expect as JSimms works in ORL, he will start to better appreciate what he was taught, and if he succeeds, I bet he draws on it. He believes in himself, and which is good, but he needs to do the off court work to reach his potential. Him thinking Danny or Manu over him is politics is just wrong for now.

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    well you were buying what he was selling. He was a 2 way potential star player you said... he's getting his chance.

    he chose the ideal situation. The Magic need any help they can get from wherever they can get it. The east is atrocious outside of Cleveland Boston and the Bucks (when healthy, Middleton and Jabari, on top of Brogdon should be great support for Antetoukoumpo)... anyways, he wanted to be an all star. He's ambitious. He's going to get his chance now... so good for him in the sense that he didn't back down from a goal.
    Yes, but I liked his situation here so he could further establish himself. Like switching a fragile plant from pot to ground, if it's not done right it'll die. He barely sprouted out the seed in the playoffs. I like his ambitions which are fine but it's very dangerous. He wants to blow up it seems, instead of taking the steps, citing politics and minutes as to insinuate that that's the reason as to what's holding him back. How about being more efficient with what's given to you first and working your way up. Kind of en led imo. He can do whatever he wants of course, but just disappointed and think it might be hard for him to do well with a new system with the unfamiliarity... Also when he started to get better, I thought it was because he was getting more comfortable in the system. Now he's uprooted and has to figure it out. How firm is his confidence if he hits the wall. Pop coddled him imo and gave him more leniency than say Anderson.

    Yeah im buying him with the Spurs cause Pop has a good idea how to use him and he can further establish himself... Vogel has worked with Stephenson so he should no how to manage Simmons, I just don't think it was a smart business move. We'll see.

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    Simmons is worth more than Patty. 50 mil for a no defense playing scrub.

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    JJ Red c is gettig $25 million next season. And all he does is hit open 3s. No defense, no creating his own shot. Nothing.
    The sixers had to sign someone with 25 million to get to min cap

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    I wouldn't want to be on a team that paid Patty ing Mills 50 million dollars either, tbh.

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    THE JEWS... is gone.

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    Simmons is worth more than Patty. 50 mil for a no defense playing scrub.
    Everyone in the NBA disagrees with you.

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    Rudy Gay better think twice about dunking, tbh.
    I wouldn't worry too much about that. Pretty hard to dunk on one leg.

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    The irony. Pop complains when they don't compete and aren't mentally tough. When he gets someone that is mentally tough he doesn't try to keep him. How is this offer better than 9m/year?
    You can't keep someone who wants out and overvalues himself.

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    Wow. Popovich outsmarting himself, again? I'm sure the Popologists will claim this Paul guy is going to be amazing, even though rookie never make much of an impact on popovich's system.
    If you don't think Jonathan Simmons production can be duplicated you are just uniformed. Anyone who thinks the Spurs streak of 50 win seasons ends this year? I have $500.00 that says otherwise.

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    If you don't think Jonathan Simmons production can be duplicated you are just uniformed. Anyone who thinks the Spurs streak of 50 win seasons ends this year? I have $500.00 that says otherwise.
    What? You don't think Spurs will miss Simmons 29% 3 point shooting?

    Under the watchful eye of Engullund Simmons shooting significantly took a dive year two to year one.

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    Everyone in the NBA disagrees with you.
    Umm no. More like patfo and idiots like you.

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    Umm no. More like patfo and idiots like you.
    That doesn't make sense.

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