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    Umm no. More like patfo and idiots like you.
    If anyone in the nba valued Simmons more than Mills he would have been signed immediately. But he wasn't and got 3/20M which is far less than Mills got.

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    ing stupid.

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    Perfect way to make next yaer, a season we have no chance to compete, even more ing boring. But hey, we have a lot of undersized shooting guards who cant play defense and only do one thing well..... so that will be fun

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    Yes, but I liked his situation here so he could further establish himself. Like switching a fragile plant from pot to ground, if it's not done right it'll die. He barely sprouted out the seed in the playoffs. I like his ambitions which are fine but it's very dangerous. He wants to blow up it seems, instead of taking the steps, citing politics and minutes as to insinuate that that's the reason as to what's holding him back. How about being more efficient with what's given to you first and working your way up. Kind of en led imo. He can do whatever he wants of course, but just disappointed and think it might be hard for him to do well with a new system with the unfamiliarity... Also when he started to get better, I thought it was because he was getting more comfortable in the system. Now he's uprooted and has to figure it out. How firm is his confidence if he hits the wall. Pop coddled him imo and gave him more leniency than say Anderson.

    Yeah im buying him with the Spurs cause Pop has a good idea how to use him and he can further establish himself... Vogel has worked with Stephenson so he should no how to manage Simmons, I just don't think it was a smart business move. We'll see.
    Good points
    Its like Dion Waiters except Simmons agent convinced him not to do a risky one year deal bc if something happened to him and he got injured... or he came up short trying to carry an offense and had a bad season it would be minimum contracts from then on bc he's just older than other up and coming guards. He's got the irrational confidence, his agent had to ensure he got at least one contract to set him up. Bottom line, I now understand what he did.

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    Surprised simmons didn't go for a third year player option so if he "blew up" he could go back on the market at age 29. Guess he had zero leverage.

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    I wanted Simmons back, but it's very telling that he could only get a deal worth 6ish per year in a climate where even mediocre players are eating well(last off-season was an anomaly, looking back, but still)..

    He should probably part ways with his management, tbh..they did a poor job of reading the market..

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    Yes, but I liked his situation here so he could further establish himself. Like switching a fragile plant from pot to ground, if it's not done right it'll die. He barely sprouted out the seed in the playoffs.

    I had to stop reading after those first few sentences. Any more, and I'd have needed a testosterone injection. It reminded me more of Richard Simmons than Jonathan Simmons.

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    Surprised simmons didn't go for a third year player option so if he "blew up" he could go back on the market at age 29. Guess he had zero leverage.

    He wanted 50 Million, but he didn't have the Juice.

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    ESPN Sources: Terms of Jonathon Simmons' three-year Orlando deal: $6.3M, $6M and $5.7M -- with partial guarantee of $1M in final season.

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    I had to stop reading after those first few sentences. Any more, and I'd have needed a testosterone injection. It reminded me more of Richard Simmons than Jonathan Simmons.
    WAsnt for you tbh truth is truth and by that I mean eternal knowledge. Pearls aren't for everyone man

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    So 3 years 18 mil

    1 mill guaranteed last year.

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    More like 3 years and 13 mil guaranteed

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    ESPN Sources: Terms of Jonathon Simmons' three-year Orlando deal: $6.3M, $6M and $5.7M -- with partial guarantee of $1M in final season.

    Wow, only $13M guaranteed? In that interview he talked about how $20M is lot of money. That's only $18M total. He better sign quick, before it goes down any more.

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    Langston Galloway got a better deal than him. His agent ed up badly.

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    Simmons had a "breakout" playoff stretch on national TV and got less guaranteed money than Dedmon, who was in Pop's doghouse..

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    That doesn't make sense.
    Just because patfo panicked and signed a worthless guard who can't play defense at 12:01 doesn't mean teams were lining up to hand mills big bucks.

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    That's a nice deal for the Magic.

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    About what he was worth tbh.. "Simmons just wanted to be fairly compenstated by the Spurs and had a number in his head "

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    WAsnt for you tbh truth is truth and by that I mean eternal knowledge. Pearls aren't for everyone man
    I got your analogy. I thought it was quite good. I hope Simmons takes root in Orlando, but I won't be surprised if he gets transplanted to Europe or China after year 2.

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    I got your analogy. I thought it was quite good. I hope Simmons takes root in Orlando, but I won't be surprised if he gets transplanted to Europe or China after year 2.

    Seriously? Jonathan Simmons, The Fragile Flower?

    This is all I have to say about that:


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    If you don't think Jonathan Simmons production can be duplicated you are just uniformed. Anyone who thinks the Spurs streak of 50 win seasons ends this year? I have $500.00 that says otherwise.
    The don't give you a championship for the amount of 50 win seasons you get. As we saw this season his value will be most missed in the playoffs. How many others on the Spurs outside of Danny/Kawhi will be able to defend Harden as well as he did ?

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    Thank God. So inconsistent and mediocre three point shooters who can't create their own shot consistently are pretty useless in today's NBA especially in the halfcourt

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    Seriously? Jonathan Simmons, The Fragile Flower?

    This is all I have to say about that:

    HaHa! You ALWAYS treat those as fragile flowers.

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