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    There were no other options for mills and Aldridge either, and they both the bed BIG time
    What are you talking about? Mills had no options because he was signed right as he hit the open market. He undoubtedly would have garnered plenty of interest and gotten $10mm+ per year. Sometimes you pay up just a slight bit more to close the deal. Aldridge had other suitors. Heck, he walked out on the Lakers.

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    He opted out of $14M for next season alone with the Kings to get 17 over two seasons with the Spurs, or roughly 8.5 this year if he opts out.
    I understand that but I think Gay knew that would be the case when he opted out of 14M coming off an Achilles...

    Simmons had higher expectations for himself money wise..

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    What are you talking about? Mills had no options because he was signed right as he hit the open market. He undoubtedly would have garnered plenty of interest and gotten $10mm+ per year. Sometimes you pay up just a slight bit more to close the deal. Aldridge had other suitors. Heck, he walked out on the Lakers.
    Dude... When I said they had no other options, I was referring to the statement about Simmons only putting up numbers vs the Warriors because we had no other options... Now with that context, reread my poat

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    What are you talking about? Mills had no options because he was signed right as he hit the open market. He undoubtedly would have garnered plenty of interest and gotten $10mm+ per year. Sometimes you pay up just a slight bit more to close the deal. Aldridge had other suitors. Heck, he walked out on the Lakers.
    Plenty of interest for a undersized subpar volume shooter who can't play a lick of defense? Why did we have to pay up for that, we have plenty of shooters on our team that shoot around that percentage.

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    Plenty of interest for a undersized subpar volume shooter who can't play a lick of defense? Why did we have to pay up for that, we have plenty of shooters on our team that shoot around that percentage.
    Lol. Mills apologists are pathetic TBH. As if an undersized shooter who plays no defense would be that hard fo find.

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    Lol. Mills apologists are pathetic TBH. As if an undersized shooter who plays no defense would be that hard fo find.
    It's CIA Pop. Mills knowing the Spurs overpaid for him is going to come into training camp in the best shape and have his best year.

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    I wish him a good season tbh.

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    I wish him a good season tbh.
    Farewell and take care JSimms

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    Orlando desperate for a star tbh

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    Orlando desperate for a star tbh
    They are. I actually looked JSimms up bc I am very curious how he fares there. They need anybody that can step up. Their pick from this year looks good. Hezonja isn't looking so good. Granted just the one preseason game. Funny as it sounds sometimes one watches teams like that just to see how guys are faring. At least they have a more measured approach currently. I don't know that Payton is starting material. Their problems start from there.

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    They are. I actually looked JSimms up bc I am very curious how he fares there. They need anybody that can step up. Their pick from this year looks good. Hezonja isn't looking so good. Granted just the one preseason game. Funny as it sounds sometimes one watches teams like that just to see how guys are faring. At least they have a more measured approach currently. I don't know that Payton is starting material. Their problems start from there.
    Well they really haven't a)drafted well or b) developed them properly. Probably a combination of both. They gave up Saric for Payton cause they were desperate for a PG and sacrificed an additional pick if I'm not mistaken.

    But Isaac looks legit. I like him a lot and they do have Hammond now who did wonders in Milwaukee with his selections. So they are putting it together slowly. Simmons has Cap Jack potential imo so he could be special there. He's got a lot of motivation and now he got a taste in the playoffs so he should be hungry. Time to sink or swim. But I'll be following him too. I hope he does well from a person to person standpoint. He literally came from the bottom. It's a great story and I want to see what the next chapter goes or if the book is done...

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    orlando, especially last year, had like 15 centers/powerforwards on their team and had to play gordon at the 3 lol really.

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    orlando, especially last year, had like 15 centers/powerforwards on their team and had to play gordon at the 3 lol really.
    They wanted play him there.

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    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...003-story.html
    Simmons, the team’s marquee offseason signing, catapulted his new teammates off their bench three times with emphatic dunks as the Magic opened their 2017 exhibition schedule with a 92-84 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies at the FedEx Forum

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    https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2017/1...ame-preseason/

    What stood out to me:
    The Spurs knew some of his limitations and they had their structure to fit him into. Simmons admitted as he arrived in Orlando that the Spurs’ structured style did not fit his game perfectly.
    in Monday’s game, with five rotation players sitting out including four starters, Simmons got the chance to show just what he might look like as the sixth man and leading scorer off the bench.

    Simmons finished with 19 points, making 6 of his 14 shots and 2 of his 5 3-pointers. He got to the line to make 5 of his 7 free throws. It was not the most efficient performance. No one is ready to give Simmons this kind of featured role full time.
    Slowly he seems to be growing into this featured role he has never had before.
    For whatever preseason stats are worth, Simmons is averaging 12.5 points per game in 21.7 minutes per game. He is shooting just 40.8 percent from the floor and 18.2 percent from beyond the arc (2 for 11). His usage rate, according to NBA.com, is at 27.9 percent.
    Simmons is certainly feeling enough freedom this preseason to push his game around. That has been both a good and a bad thing for the Magic in the preseason.
    It has been good because this is the time for Simmons to experiment. Offensively, he has shown some ability to drive into the lane. Once Simmons gets there, he is still learning what to do with the ball. He is not yet a great distributor. That part is not natural to his game.
    It has been bad because it has shown the limitations in his game. Or at least where his game has yet to go.
    It will be interesting to see how he does through the season. Overall the Magic seem to be experimenting with how far he can go in preseason and so far they really consider him the best FA acquisition of their modest offseason.

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    Really interesting how the mics Orlando had in their baskets made those threes sound like sonic booms.

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    Really interesting how the mics Orlando had in their baskets made those threes sound like sonic booms.
    You mean Dallas? I remember those Sonic booms when Keer went OFF!!

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    simmons is already at his ceiling. magic will get what SA had, an occasional spark offensively that comes with frequent turnovers and horrible shooting games. there will also be that game every once in a while where he gives you some great numbers.

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    I like Brandon Paul more, even though I'm not sure he's better. Paul seems to be fitting in better already than Simmons did after two seasons. But he's not as explosive as Jonathon and so he has a lower ceiling.

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    simmons is already at his ceiling. magic will get what SA had, an occasional spark offensively that comes with frequent turnovers and horrible shooting games. there will also be that game every once in a while where he gives you some great numbers.
    His TO have been very much in control and he wasn't TO prone in the playoffs I might add... but that has come along with him also not assisting others as much. His usage has skyrocketed and his assists are down.
    It's fine to experiment in preseason, but he's obviously not a guy you want at 27% usage an entire season IMO. I do wish him the best and I have wondered if he could be what his fandom thinks he could be. I was inclined to believe no bc he just wasn't that efficient last season even in a smaller role, but who knows? The Magic need any help they can get. He will be interesting to keep track of.

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    simmons is already at his ceiling. magic will get what SA had, an occasional spark offensively that comes with frequent turnovers and horrible shooting games. there will also be that game every once in a while where he gives you some great numbers.
    I like Brandon Paul more, even though I'm not sure he's better. Paul seems to be fitting in better already than Simmons did after two seasons. But he's not as explosive as Jonathon and so he has a lower ceiling.
    These

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    Simmons would be the best bench player on this roster, though that's not saying much.

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    he would be cancer because pop thinks he is not white enough even though whites should be uncomfortable according to him

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    I just didn't like getting rid of him and Dedmond. But I guess they know what they're doing

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    29pts, 7rebs, and 5ast tonight on 13/24 shooting and 3/6 from three

    Magic lost because their players are falling like flies. I mean, Hezonja's scrub ass is not only seeing the court... he's starting at Power Forward.

    In b4 SADude asks why we keep talking about Simmons like he ain't bumping threads when he has bad games

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