We're better off faking a Kawhi injury and going for the #1 pick with that starting lineup
"But but but we gonna win 50+ and keep an useless other-than-for-bragging-rights streak alive".
"Golden State is going to win no matter what! What did you guys expect? For the Spurs to improve?!"
"PATFO won 5 championships by themselves, RC always drafts gems, Pop's system isn't full ISO's and postups it just seems that way because he's CIA'ing it up, everything is awesome!"
That PG/SG rotation is super crowded but there may be concerns Tony is going to be out longer than expected, and not 100 needing rest days even if he's back. Remember last season he kept getting nags and strains and sprains.. etc. Then Manu is 40... also will be rested and may be looking done at times frankly. If you take Tony and Manu out of that rotation, between rest days and injury days.. then they look fine minutes wise. A bunch of untested guys, rookies, and guys that haven't played much in the NBA even if they aren't rookies in Forbes and Murray... so a lot of unknowns in the guard rotation.
BS. The kyle hate has to stop. He is a plus defender and rebounder. He doesn't the bed when dribbling or passing. He has good hands and good length for today's pf. He needs to shoot better and faster, and also get stronger. For most teams, he will fine for 20mins ppg, splitting the 4 with Bertans and Gay for the majority of teams.
agreed tbdog... the hate won't stop so I just ignore some dudes.. but I share the sentiment.
And yet you hate on bringing Manu back...? Even though after Kawhi went down last year he was the only one playing with any semblance of compe ive fire. Everybody else just pouted and felt sorry for themselves which was utterly disgusting to witness as a San Antonio Spurs fan.agreed tbdog... the hate won't stop so I just ignore some dudes.. but I share the sentiment.
Ginobili shot 58.8% from the field in the GS series, averaging 17.6 PPG if you toss out game 2 where Pop only played him 5 minutes. He had 7 steals, 11 assists, and only 3 turnovers across 4 games. Ginobili outplayed Danny Green playing 6 minutes less per game and was more efficient than Simmons who tried to step up for an absent Kawhi (Simmons was 41.4% from the field). Simmons was also a combined -66 for the series whereas Ginobili was a -33. All this to say that Manu will still contribute when it matters most (if healthy) which is more than we can say for every player on the team not named Kawhi Leonard (looking at you TGY, hater, TimDunkem, RD2191 who consider Manu to be "the problem"). Here's hoping his wheels don't fall off before we reach the end of the season.
I'm actually on board in believing that Kyle can break out this year IF he stops being so tentative with his open looks. Like tbdog said, he is a plus defender, plus rebounder and has good vision. On top of his tentativeness, it's compe iveness (think hustle / diving for loose balls / setting hard screens) and physicality that he struggles with. Hopefully he busts out of his egg s this year.
I wish you chased the Parker haters like you do Manu's, but you don't. Player fan. Ginobili is a liability and is only getting worse by the day. Criticism is completely valid.
First off, I don't hate Parker. So you are waaaaaaaaay off in trying to lump me with that crowd.
You're completely irrational when it comes to hating on Manu that's why I will continue to call you out on it.
In fact, you hate him simply for being Argentinean which borders on xenophobic prejudice. In that context I'm not the one with the problem - you are.
Finally, you never argue the numbers, because they're almost assuredly inconvenient to your arguments - you just proceed with your endless hateful rant like a broken record.
Great news!
L Tony Parker R Manu Ginobili
If GNob is coming back for 4 or less then
I for one am not questioning Kyles skill set.... His problem is passive non aggressive nature. If he could/would ratchet up his intensity and be more pro active I would back the player. He is going into year four not year two.......
Show me where I hated on bringing Manu back... You won't find it bc I didn't. It was a meh signing that made sense considering everything else that went on b4 Manu said he'd be back. Considering what they did, they also need him.
What I hated on was signing Mills for 50 million at 12:01. I wanted the spurs to add a real contributor and difference maker at one of the guards spots. They have known issues. Manu is old and Tony is injured. Dijon is very raw and everyone else is a question mark. Forbes didn't shoot well in the NBA last season and didn't have a single good playoff game that he played in.
Instead, Spurs overpaid for Mills (a high price tag if we look at the market this season, and in a long term deal to boot) and got a lot of rookies and untested guards. Once they decided to do this, bringing Manu back made sense. In fact, Spurs probably need him. I suppose they are high on all their young guards and are hoping to find some jewels among this crop so I am looking forward to it, but it wasn't what I wanted them to do... I don't have to drink the Kool-aid to be a fan.
That's not one of the non-guaranteed training camp contracts the Spurs always sign in the summer?
I really liked what Lee gave to the team last year, but I think Bertans needs to take his role to see what the Spurs have with Davis and whether he should be a part of the Spurs longer term plans. Unless the Spurs dump Aldridge for a two guard I don't see much room for Lee as anything but someone there for injury insurance and to eat up garbage time minutes.
Ok... so hate is likely a strong word... you're NOOOOOOOO where near the hate levels of hater (go figure) or TGY when it comes to Ginobili. I just find it difficult to rationalize seeing where bringing Manu back is a NET-negative given the options at shooting guard that were available league wide. Sure... PATFO could have gone after some unproven younger guy... but Ginobili's knowledge of the system, his compe ive fire, along with his leadership role are not easily replaceable attributes that anyone - let alone a younger "fill-in-the-blank" player - would be able to bring to the team next season. IF Ginobili feels he still has some juice left in the tank (which he proved against GS just two months ago) THEN you give him the benefit of the doubt.
That said, you did state some disappointment with the FO on their unwillingness to pursue other options at SG (albeit in a reluctantly accepting and understanding fashion).
She never "hated", but she didn't want him back. Period. Just call a spade a spade.
Absolutely. Bertans has capabilities and needs to sink, or swim- so to speak.
Lee being here would just stunt that growth, if there is any to be had. We won't know until he goes out there and plays that role on a consistent basis.
What's funny is that Simmon's disgruntled exit (at feeling he deserved a 50 million dollar contract) is being discussed as a mistake on PATFO's part WHEN HE LITERALLY COULDN'T OUT-PERFORM A FREAKING 39-YEAR OLD. Not consistently, not convincingly or efficiently enough to make an outright claim to that end. Simmons did have his moments, but they were far and few between. Could consistent minutes have changed that pattern? Who knows.
I would've hoped we could have retained Simmon's services at 20 million/3 years, but he felt he had to move on to leave Pop's shadow and his tight leash. His loss.
No tears from me. For sure. Dude moves no needles in any direction for any team.
i think the problem with simmon's is that there will always be a concern about his ability to have a decent jump shot. he is a of an athlete with a questionable skill set.
Neither did Green, Mills or Aldridge.
And while it has been established the Spurs gave no offer whatsoever to Simms, the claim Simmons was asking for 50 appears to be Jabbis opinion. If Jabbri is a trusted enough source with the players, specifically Simmons to warrant that as fact then ok, 50.
Frankly you got me there.
I am assuming he's going to be in the team bc they really haven't signed enough bigs.
In reality I don't know the terms of the contract.
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