So does Trumpcare pass the house?

[Warlord23]

Just do what the rest of the civilized world does already. Single payer for common treatments, plus optional private insurance (employer based or individual) for niche stuff.

Pharma firms practice borderline bribery with US health care providers to encourage prescriptions, then charge exorbitant prices. They then buy off politicians on both sides of the aisle to avoid changing the system. Until voters send a strong message by booting out bought-and-paid-for in bents, this will go on.

[boutons_deux]

Just do what the rest of the civilized world does already. Single payer for common treatments

that's not how it works, mostly. Universal health care is just that, but excludes vision, hearing, dental that are obtained by supplementary policy.

Then of course, there are the wealthy who buy expensive for-profit private platinum coverage to avoid public facilities and the losers, and to get exclusive access to expensive private facilities.

Universal health care is impossible in USA, no matter how badly even a large majority of citizens would want it, because the unchallengeable, unstoppable oligarchy makes govt/corporatocracy policy for profit. Citizens' preferences are ignored.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Ham-Handed, Incoherent Health Care Message Leaves Senate Flailing

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump

I will be having lunch at the White House today with Republican Senators concerning healthcare. They MUST keep their promise to America!

7:30 AM - 19 Jul 2017

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On Wednesday,

he summoned all 52 Republican senators to the White House to try to browbeat them into passing some form of a health care bill.

The president previewed his message for the lawmakers in an interview with televangelist Pat Robertson—

saying he’ll be “very angry” if they can’t pass a bill SO ING WHAT?

—and in tweets Wednesday morning that

made no case for the merits of the legislation or

the difficult politics of curtailing the benefits of millions of people.

“He’s thinking of them as underlings and he’s the CEO. But he’s not Congress’ CEO, he’s the president of the United States. They don’t work for him, they work for their cons uents.”

‘If you elect us, we’ll repeal Obamacare,'” said Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), “I think we will look like fools if we can’t deliver on that promise.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-senate-republicans-obamacare-repeal-fail?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_cam paign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Threatened An Anti-Trumpcare Republican Senator To His Face

During his first on-camera appearance in the month of July, President Trump vented his frustration with the failure of Senate Republicans to come to any kind of consensus regarding the repeal and replace of President Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

Trump demonstrated his usual knack for tactful negotiation when he publicly threatened Senator Dean er (R-NV), who was literally sitting right next to him.

“Look, he wants to remain a Senator, right?”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07...-senator-face/

Trash ain't no Lyndon Johnson

Fart of the Deal!

[Reck]

LMAO new CBO score in...

Somehow they managed to make it even worse.

[ducks]

LMAO new CBO score in...

Somehow they managed to make it even worse.

cbo score wrong before wrong again

something will be in place by 2019

[baseline bum]

cbo score wrong before wrong again

something will be in place by 2019

LOL Price put his own guy in charge at the CBO and now whines about their scores.

[boutons_deux]

Fox News Poll Humiliates Trump As His Supporters Are Fleeing Over Healthcare


A new Fox News poll has Trump losing support among

Republicans (-3),

white men (-9), and

working class whites (-11),

which means that Trump's small base of support is continuing to shrink.


A new Fox News poll has Trump losing support among Republicans (-3), white men (-9), and working class whites (-11), which means that Trump’s small base of support is continuing to shrink.

According to Fox News, “Approval of the president has mostly held steady among Republicans (down three points) since he first took office, but dropped 11 points among working class whites and nine among men.

Meanwhile,

voters think Russia interfered in the U.S. election (by a 55-34 percent margin),

and five times as many think the Kremlin wanted a President Trump (65 percent) as opposed to a President Hillary Clinton (13 percent).

Trump has a major problem on health care.

By a margin of 59%-32%, respondents disapprove of his performance on health care.

54% percent of respondents said that Trump isn’t on their side, and

51% described that the change that Trump has brought as bad.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/19/trump-numbers-plummet-men-working-class-whites-supporters-flee-healthcare.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=f eed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Po liticus+USA+%29

"I promise you, on Day One, we'll be So Sick Of Winning"

[boutons_deux]

Health-Care Debacle Exposes the Monster in Trump

Never has a president been so willing to fail Americans simply to get his way.


Brendan Nyhan
✔@BrendanNyhan

I ask again: Has any president ever openly stated they will let a policy fail that would hurt people on this scale? Seems unprecedented https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/887356948093566976 …
12:12 PM - 18 Jul 2017
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Trump has, in fact, undermined the health exchanges, and he has threatened to do so further;

indeed, one estimate says that

the bulk of projected 2018 premium increases are the result of Trump and other Republican actions,

not a deterioration in the markets -- in part because

insurers are directly saying that's why their rates are going up.

everything we know about retrospective voting says that outside of hard-core Republicans, who will back Trump no matter what,

voters will blame the current president for anything that goes wrong, fairly or unfairly.

Of course, most politicians also entered public life at least in part to improve the conditions of the nation.

Most politicians. But evidently not this one.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-19/health-care-disaster-exposes-trump-as-a-monster

[Adam Lambert]

in case anyone is interested or surprised at all by this, the president of the united states doesnt know how health insurance works

So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, “I want my insurance.” It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.

[boutons_deux]

Desperate GOP Calls Emergency Meeting To Revive Trumpcare And Kick Millions Off Insurance

The president and his GOP allies in Congress just can't accept the fact that America isn't buying what they're selling.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/...iticus+USA+%29

Senate votes Tue to repeal ACA,

[Adam Lambert]

in case anyone is interested or surprised at all by this, the president of the united states doesnt know how health insurance works

So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, “I want my insurance.” It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.

srsly. look. wtf.

[spurraider21]

srsly. look. wtf.

much more eloquent than his discussion about uranium

[Adam Lambert]

much more eloquent than his discussion about uranium

dudes had 6 months in office with healthcare as his top priority, is barking orders about solving healthcare, bragged about how easy it would be, and he thinks it works like life insurance.

what a stupid stupid person

#maga

[boutons_deux]

Team Trump Used Obamacare Money to Run PR Effort Against It

The administration is tasked with overseeing the health care law. Instead, it has made a major social media push to undermine it.

The Trump administration has spent taxpayer money meant to encourage enrollment in the Affordable Care Act on a public relations campaign aimed at methodically strangling it.

The effort, which involves a multi-pronged social media push as well as video testimonials designed at damaging public opinion of President Obama’s health care law, is far more robust and sustained than has been publicly revealed or realized.

The strategy has caught the eye of legal experts and Democrats in Congress,

who have asked government agencies to investigate whether the administration has misused funds and

engaged in covert propaganda in its efforts to damage and overturn the seven-year-old health care law

http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-tr...ads-against-it

all Repugs to . Corrupt, American-hating sonsof es.

[Xevious]

dudes had 6 months in office with healthcare as his top priority, is barking orders about solving healthcare, bragged about how easy it would be, and he thinks it works like life insurance.

what a stupid stupid person

#maga

Not only that but who the only pays $12/year on health insurance?

[boutons_deux]

Not only that but who the only pays $12/year on health insurance?

Here’s Why Trump Thinks Health Insurance Costs Only $12 Per Year

There may, however, be one possibility as to where Trump obtained this information.

Below is a commercial that airs regularly on Fox News.

As a notorious consumer of the conservative news outlet and a nonconsumer of details, Trump could easily have conflated the wholly inexpensive Gerber Life Grow Up Plan with adult health insurance.

Take note that Gerber offers this plan for $1 a week.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/20/heres-trump-thinks-health-insurance-costs-12-per-year/

[rmt]

He probably means direct primary care:

MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP FEES
Children 0-19 years old, $10/month with at least one parent membership
Adults 20-44 years old, $50/month
Adults 45-64 years old, $75/month
Adults 65+ years old, $100/month
Employer groups with 5+ employees, $50/mo/adult

https://atlas.md/wichita/our-fees/

[Adam Lambert]

He probably means direct primary care:

MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP FEES
Children 0-19 years old, $10/month with at least one parent membership
Adults 20-44 years old, $50/month
Adults 45-64 years old, $75/month
Adults 65+ years old, $100/month
Employer groups with 5+ employees, $50/mo/adult

https://atlas.md/wichita/our-fees/

no, he means life insurance. hes an idiot and a blowhard. deal with it.

[leemajors]

He probably means direct primary care:

MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP FEES
Children 0-19 years old, $10/month with at least one parent membership
Adults 20-44 years old, $50/month
Adults 45-64 years old, $75/month
Adults 65+ years old, $100/month
Employer groups with 5+ employees, $50/mo/adult

https://atlas.md/wichita/our-fees/

At this time, we are not able to provide routine vaccinations. Call to discuss how we can help arrange these for you.

[Xevious]

And 10 bucks a month for an infant in addition to an adult membership of $50 a month is a long way off from $12 a year for an adult.

[Pavlov]

Got to be exhausting trying to cover for this President's ignorance so often.

[rmt]

Now why in the world would a direct primary care facility (trying to keep YOUR cost down) deal with vaccinations when one can obtain them FREE from your public/county health department? And it's $10/month for a 19 year old (with adult membership) - see how that works. I'd hazard a guess that health care for a 19 year old costs LESS than that for an infant or newborn. Some of you complain about high health care costs and turn around and mock any attempt to keep down costs. I'd love to have something like that here in Miami - I'd sign up tomorrow.

You all wondered where Trump came up with that number. Well, this Josh Umberh is a regular on Hannity which Trump watches/listens to.

[rmt]

Hannity on the radio, I mean. Sorry, still can't edit - such a pain.

[Pavlov]

Now why in the world would a direct primary care facility (trying to keep YOUR cost down) deal with vaccinations when one can obtain them FREE from your public/county health department? And it's $10/month for a 19 year old (with adult membership) - see how that works. I'd hazard a guess that health care for a 19 year old costs LESS than that for an infant or newborn. Some of you complain about high health care costs and turn around and mock any attempt to keep down costs. I'd love to have something like that here in Miami - I'd sign up tomorrow.

You all wondered where Trump came up with that number. Well, this Josh Umberh is a regular on Hannity which Trump watches/listens to.

Yeah, none of those numbers is $12 per year, so we wonder still.