relying on MSM
connect the dots bro...
Love manu, but it was pretty clear the spurs struggled to freely mpve on free agency because manu was waiting for a leverage offer.
It's ok. Manu has kids to feed..no one should be mad at him for being selfish. We're all selfish to an extent.
Not sure why thats so hard tp admit.
The more worrying news is that Manu doesn't care about winning anymore. He said its about experience now. Sucks for Kawhi..but it is what it is.
It was not Woj - I was making a point. That if a player doesn't say it, does not mean it's true. There are plenty of credible reports out on many topics that don't require a player saying something on the record.
You trying to play semantics and say "Did Hanga get a lie detector test and say on camera all of this"? It's ridiculous
You haven't ruined anything. In fact I see more people agreeing with me than you & I also see multiple people calling you out on you being wrong on your CBA knowledge lol.Dude, don't get mad I've ruined this schtick you've been working on over the summer. It's really weak anyways, you can thank me later, tbh...
You're a great poster though.
Nono is using the troll argument cause he knows its true.
I don't understand why Argentinos can't accept the fact that for once Manu made an incredibly selfish decision. People do it all the time. No big deal.
I've been correct throughout this thread. 10 out of 10 so far...
You're also my guy, that's why I'm pointing this weak stuff out, tbh... didn't mean to mention Tony never gave a discount, BTW, but had to be done once you brought it up...
I would've loved if he took the money and went to Philly, tbh... closer drive for me...Nono is using the troll argument cause he knows its true.
I don't understand why Argentinos can't accept the fact that for once Manu made an incredibly selfish decision. People do it all the time. No big deal.
As I have learned the expression for that in Spurstalk is semen shielding... to the 10th degree at least.
Like Manu has taken cap space against the team at any time in his career that would have jeopardized gaining a player...As I have learned the expression for that in Spurstalk is semen shielding... to the 10th degree at least.
Even his 14 last year was a throwaway dollar amount, upon the cap.
He has never put the team on blast with his demands. Ever.
Appreciate all the cap discussion but I think it's simple. He wanted to come back but truly this season had more doubts than the one before. Retirement is near and he's at the point where the situation has to be likeable, that is with players he likes: Patty and the old Pau who is in his generation... vs a bunch of youngsters that call him grandpa but he can't click with and wouldn't hang out with since they have so little in common... nothing personal. Then, on top of that, he was going to see if money wise it was worth it. No way is he coming back on a vet. min deal etc. He's old, it's a ton of work to stay in shape and ready at his age, and he's mentally ready to retire if the situation and money are not appealing... some might say a bit checked out of caring about results at this point.. not like before. So the situation has to be fun for him and the money has to be worth it. Simple. No need to argue with Nono about what makes sense.
Manu could get a 15mil year deal right now, if he wanted too, but he knows the Spurs don't have that same luxury like last year. A lot of gots per par tbh.
His extension signed in 2011 (taking effect in 2012) wasn't the max because his base salary went down, as Chinook pointed out. I believe a max extension would have started at $14.175M, which is 105% of $13.5M.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html#all_all_salaries
That's how the contract was structured though, the total value of the contract for all the years was the max allowed under the CBA for an extension (AFAIK). I suppose you could make the argument that he 'saved' the Spurs some cap money that year... which I think was what Chinook was pointing out.
Manu losing a ton of money to be with the Spurs.
Manu losing a ton of money to be with the Spurs.
SAGirl
buthurt alert!
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Gonna be 4 years with the spurs talking about "potential".
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017...ract-situation
Mite have been onto something here mate
So what Hanga is saying is that the Spurs guaranteed him a contract and then reneged... there's nothing about Manu there. Obviously, the Spurs had plenty of time to sign Hanga...
He sounds like a little that needs to get over himself, tbh... probably part of the reason the Spurs went in a different direction...
While we're bumping this thread, has Manu actually signed? For what amount?
They might have promised him a min contract. He got the unexpected mega offer from Barcelona. The Spurs weren't giving him that much.
It was never Hanga or Manu, it was Hanga or Rudy Gay.
Spurs mishandled both Hang and Simmons, though Simmons was polite and acknowledged the Spurs giving him an opportunity.
Hanga's camp had made public he was only coming over if Manu retired and it's reasonable to infer the promise on his contract might have been conditional on that, thus the statement he would only come over if Manu retired. IMO he wasn't going to accept a FA minimum deal when his own FA In Europe yielded better pay and minutes. This is an obvious inference. Recently some European prospects have been signed to better than minimum contracts too.
Ultimately Pop and RC decides on roster composition but they appeared to encourage him to come over this past season and then reneged on a contract offer. I believe the signing of Rudy Gay took both minutes and $ that could have either been Hanga's, Simmons, etc. So for the Spurs sake I hope Rudy pans out and is in good playable shape after that Achilles injury. Manu retiring would have all but guaranteed minutes from Rudy weren't going to be enough and amplify the need for wings with some defensive chops, which none of the rookies have as they are both guards, thus possibly making the signing of Hang a a better priority. Considering the Pau contract situation, Hanga was at least one of the possibilities considered.
Last edited by SAGirl; 08-24-2017 at 08:10 AM.
Either way, Spurs dodged a huge bullet with that guy. He sucks major ass.
Hanga signed a deal averaging less than two million Euros a season. He made less than the LLE, even accounting for taxes. Money wasn't the issue with Hanga -- Pop wanting to keep Manu was.
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