Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[tonight...you]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other ty pieces repleaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

RC is sending drunken sexts as we type...

[MannyIsGod]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of SA giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation. Dumping the roster for him isn't going to move the needle for the next "eight years" like they're saying. At best, it opens up the chance a Big Three, but those contracts are something the team can't likely afford long-term.

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.

[BatManu20]

[$pursDynasty]

I was going to hop into the ESPN trade machine but it appears Patty can't be part of the trade at least according to the trade machine

[tonight...you]

Exactly. I hope we at least look into this. It's known we're one of the teams he prefers. We need to see what it would take. If they want Kawhi, tell them no thanks and move on. Anyone else should be available for this. peoples' feelings. This is about the future of the franchise and remaining compe ive.

people's feelings? But not including Kawhi? Who would that mean? Parker and Manu?
Like they would be sought after in a trade...

What the are you referring to?

[mando6599]

Spurs are trending on Twitter for these rumors. Ha!

[Emperor]

Kyrie/Love for Aldridge/Green/Murray/Anderson works in the trade machine.

[sasaint]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of SA giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation. Dumping the roster for him isn't going to move the needle for the next "eight years" like they're saying. At best, it opens up the chance a Big Three, but those contracts are something the team can't likely afford long-term.

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

[$pursDynasty]

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.

The Spurs need a #1 scoring threat (Kyrie, KD, Steph) so the KingSlayer can put energy into defense and still be a very good #2 or 3 scoring option. Kyrie does fit that bill.

[FkLA]

Interested but is anyone else concerned with the fact that he has an issue taking a backseat to a Top 2 player of all-time? That just makes no sense.

[sasaint]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other ty pieces replaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

I believe that Kyrie wants to get out of the shadow of the Cav's "foundation." I don't think he wants to make a move to play with another foundation. He wants to go to a team where he is the man.

[Chinook]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other ty pieces repleaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

Kyrie isn't even good enough to get a team to the playoffs by himself. To put into comparison, here is his best season compared to those of Gay and Parker:

https://www.basketball-reference.com...keto01&y3=2013

I am not saying that there aren't a lot of deals I would make for Irving, but considering paying him and Kawhi (and best-case DMC) more than $100 Million a season is scary. He is not worth everything.

[bklynspursfan]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if this all started cause LeBron told Kyrie he's leaving next year, and he's telling him to get out too, even if it means saying that he's tired of playing with LeBron.

He proved in the finals a couple years ago he can be special. Saying he wants to be "the guy" but then list SA as a choice when we have "the guy" already doesn't quite equate. The Knicks/Heat certainly do.

[BatManu20]

[Ron Swanson]

people's feelings? But not including Kawhi? Who would that mean? Parker and Manu?
Like they would be sought after in a trade...

What the are you referring to?

I'm saying we should explore any possibility outside of moving Kawhi. Who knows if a third team would get involved and what they would be willing to take?

[baseline bum]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I think he either found out or strongly suspects LeBron is gone next summer.

[BatManu20]

I was going to hop into the ESPN trade machine but it appears Patty can't be part of the trade at least according to the trade machine

Can't be traded until December. Spurs wouldn't anyways.

[Chinook]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I don't know if it's the numbers he cares about as much as the reputation. You can never shine next to Lebron, even if you are an established future HoFer like Bosh. Irving and Leonard would be a nice 1A/1B who could play off each other, while if LMA were to be kept, he'd have a great big to set up. His numbers should remain the same, but the perception of those numbers would be different.

[NickiRasgo]

Can the Spurs trade Parker as a filler and ask Cavs to waive him then sign him next year around January/February?

[DAF86]

Irving and Love for Aldridge, Green, Mills, draft picks and cash.

Cavs do this because:

-They fulfill Irving's wishes.
-They get rid of Love's contract.
-Get Aldridge's 22 millions expiring contract.

[sasaint]

I think he either found out or strongly suspects LeBron is gone next summer.

Along with every other basketball fan in the known universe.

[Ron Swanson]

LeBron leaving next summer is NBA's worst kept secret.

[$pursDynasty]

Kyrie/Love for Aldridge/Green/Murray/Anderson works in the trade machine.

I want no part of KLove. Is there any way we can morph Patty's contract into a sign and trade? A Spurs team with Kyrie as #1 scoring option, Kingslayer as the best player on the team but #2 scoring option and makes LMA the #3 option is a pretty serious line up. Also takes the pressure off of LMA and hopefully that will allow him to shine.

[cd021]

I think he knows Lebron is gone next summer... so he's trying to jump ship before hits the fan.

Remember, there was rumors that he was going to take is qualifying offer and leave after his forth season. He wound up resigning and Lebron came but he wasn't always happy to be in Cleveland.

Spurs better be moving to try and get him, they have the best assets of the teams on his list. Cleveland can try and salvage this upcoming season but it means that this could be the end of the Cav's run

[Chinook]

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.

Sure, but that's only worth so much. The Spurs can't afford to punt this season without a long-term commitment from Irving, and even if he gives it, it would come from him getting way too much money from SA. Most I would go is Green, Parker, Murray, Bertans and a pick for Irving and Shumpert. You start talking about Green, LMA, Murray and picks, and you pretty much punt half of Kyrie's contract away, because you still have no bigs other than Pau and Lauvergne. And it's not like the Spurs are actually going to perform better after the trade than they would without it. We can all we want, but the team will still be a top-four team in the league next year