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kawhi for irving. who says no?
Boston does but Cleveland will not trade him to the team who has the best shot of knocking them out of the ECF. Given that, it's up in the air for now. Realistically, I see the Cavs holding on to Kyrie and possibly looking at a trade before the deadline. A lot of things can change between now and then.
kawhi for irving. who says no?
I absolutely think they want win-now players. If they lose Kyrie, they aren't going to give up hope on Lebron until he leaves. So they are likely to appease him more by getting more win-now guys.
If the spurs give Green plus whatever, and cavs sign Rose. That's not a loss for them. Green is a huge upgrade at the 2. But we can't give up lma without getting a starting big in return.
This is re ed on so many levels and yet it doesn't surprise me to see it posted here.
I agree with the holding him part (like LMA with SA if the price is not met).
But even without a no-trade clause, which teams have the assets? You said BOS. If Kyrie said he does not want to play for anyone but the 4 teams he listed, and you are BOS that is not one of those teams, are you trading prime assets for Kyrie when you know he can simply leave in a couple years or do what he's doing to CLE and force his way out?
That's a very good point. I honestly don't know if BOS would pull the trigger on that trade. I just think they have the assets to get it done now, if they want to go that route.
This is why I'm trying to stay realistic. The thing is that it is too enticing to not entertain the idea of Kyrie on the Spurs. I just hope that PATFO is trying their hardest to get him instead of letting the opportunity slip by without having exhausted every option. It is pretty much up to the Cavs though. Let's just hope that they want to send him where he wants to go.
And yet the 39 year old was outplaying everyone on the Spurs not named Kawhi just 2 months ago... THAT's why your notion that he's got nothing left doesn't make any sense in light of the evidence.
Haven't been in this thread in a few hours. Can someone summarize pages 7-20 for me?
The roster construction is so poor that if we give up LMA and another to get Irving then only two bigs will be gasol and that Joeffry guy. If we at least get reed we'd be aight. Don't get me wrong, I'd take kyrie if we can get him, but this team is gonna have serious holes in the roster no matter what
In before "we didn't want him anyways, we have Tony, Patty and Dijon"
There are many teams that have great assets but if Kyrie doesn't want to play for you are you offering up those great assets for someone who could be a short-term rental at best?
That is a misstatement. He had a few good games but so did others too. He also played even though he was throwing blanks for 5 games in a row.. while Spurs youngsters don't get that chance. A year older Manu. Not hating on Manu but if Mills not being reupped pushed him over the edge to retire, he needed to retire anyways. You want to be a fanboy and stay in denial that is fine by me. But I am not in that boat.
Nah... I wanted him.. I wanted CP3... etc.
I wasn't in some Dijon is untradeable bandwagon either.
I didn't want Patty to get overpaid, even less when it happened at 12:01 and I also was ambivalent about Manu. Considering what they did ... stand pat, yes they need him.
But I wanted the Spurs to improve at the guards spots this season.
If they do nothing, then yea sure, I'll watch Dijon, White, BP3, and whoever else. I liked Forbes as much as anyone else too. But I wasn't in some let's stand pat wagon.
no news... guys suggesting interesting or ridiculous trades... speculation, Chinook arguing against trading LMA and Danny and whoever else for Kyrie was probably the most interesting discussion...
It's pretty obvious why Kyrie would want to play for the Spurs...
He gets to play for Pop who he probably thinks will take his game to the next level...
He wouldn't have to share the ball like he did with LeBron..Kawhi would play off him and honestly could be a better fit...
Spurs would be set for NOW and the FUTURE...and would be contenders for years to come...
It would fix his reputation of not being a winner..:that's his knock..he's just a star padder without LeBron...
Dont forget hes stupid as
How so?
Of Irving's four preferred teams the Spurs are last in terms of trade assets. Even the Knocks have Melo who may sway Lebron to stay in Cleveland (albeit to even waive his no-trade clause he'd prolly need assurance Lebron is staying).
He is stupid as because he is a flat earther for starters.
You can't say Melo is an asset then say SA is last. SA has LMA. By all measurable things, even in a "bad" year for LMA, LMA grades out better than Melo.
I read on bleacher report that melo said he only wants the rockets now cause of the kyrie news.
Oh and bucks have apparently already made an offer
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